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Message started by BALLJNTBUSTER32 on 09/10/06 at 4:14pm

Title: Johnson clinches Hobby tiltle
Post by BALLJNTBUSTER32 on 09/10/06 at 4:14pm

Congrats to Mike. Hobby stock Champion again! Awsome year, missed a race and still have a 88 point lead. He doesn't even have to show up to the last race. I don't think this has ever been done before.

It's a race for second now. Tina is only 2 points behind Clyde Benson for second. This year should of ended with a M. Johnson and C. Johnson one two finish. Not some BS air pressure rule after the race DQ. Just not right. How can you gaurantee a Beadlock will hold air after a full race of bumping and grinding. But after last years DQ of Tina for using a GM starter, I'm not surprised by anything. I can't believe Tina's beadlock held 30 PSI. I guess we will have to re-think using a beadlock for the last race. Richie

Title: Re: Johnson clinches Hobby tiltle
Post by JOHNSON MOTORSPORTS 1 on 09/10/06 at 4:23pm

yeah he had a good year. he mentioned to my mom maybe letting me do double duty next week in his hobby and my american since he doesnt have to race to get the championship but i think he will race for the win next week.

Title: Re: Johnson clinches Hobby tiltle
Post by robbySAWYER on 09/10/06 at 4:24pm

what!!! u can not tech it after a race! tech it before they go on the track, sounds like just more problems and politics for some small dirt track... what if ur tire leaks what if u ran over somehting in the middle of the race, that is retarded for a DQ

Title: Re: Johnson clinches Hobby tiltle
Post by Geoff30 on 09/10/06 at 4:33pm

We always put a little extra in it so just in case it does drop in air. I do think they should just check it before the race but I understand why they dont, with all the people that run them. It not really fair for use to have to do that but I guess that is just the way it is.

Title: Re: Johnson clinches Hobby tiltle
Post by BALLJNTBUSTER32 on 09/10/06 at 4:41pm

I checked the rule. It does say 30 PSI "at all times". It also says, wheels must have car number on them. I better check all our wheels because I know they are not all numbered. And if they will DQ you for air pressure after a race. Who knows how far they will go with these rules. LOL

The track needs to look at this rule. "At all times". Does that mean if you get hit and blow out your Beadlock, that you are DQ'd for being under 30 PSI while going to the pits to change your tire. Richie

Title: Re: Johnson clinches Hobby tiltle
Post by barrett00j on 09/10/06 at 4:42pm

what good does a bead lock do if you have to run over 30psi?

Title: Re: Johnson clinches Hobby tiltle
Post by JOHNSON MOTORSPORTS 1 on 09/10/06 at 4:44pm

im hoping for the nationals they dont make u run 30 psi in the bead lock cuz i got my american stock running the best it ever has with the rear end locked against the hobbies in chow last monday. and i will be running the nationals and twin 50's so i hope that rule doesnt stand for those races

Title: Re: Johnson clinches Hobby tiltle
Post by snoopy22 on 09/10/06 at 5:17pm

Hey Richie we have a mighty bead you can use inplace of the bead lock!!! works great!!!!

Title: Re: Johnson clinches Hobby tiltle
Post by BALLJNTBUSTER32 on 09/10/06 at 7:07pm

Does Mike use a mighty bead or a bead lock. Because I'm suprised Tina's bead lock held air. Not very many do. I'm glad that Mike won the title, but it would of been a whole lot more fun at the last race if Mike wouldn't have passed the air pressure tech. I even tried to bribe Mike. I told him if he missed last nights race, I would give him a ride in my street stock. Of course I was kidding but he turned me down any way. That boy can drive. Richie

Title: Re: Johnson clinches Hobby tiltle
Post by snoopy22 on 09/10/06 at 7:29pm

Yes he does use the Bead lock and I'm glad he turned you down for the SS because now he can just go out and have fun the last night of the season!!!! But we get to see Tina take 2nd place!! Yes he can drive!! Thanks for all your help Richie!!

Dawn

Title: Re: Johnson clinches Hobby tiltle
Post by chad11 on 09/10/06 at 8:53pm

Mike did a hell of a job this year, he deserves the championship.
Let me get a few things straight. I have no reason to cheat. I have the fastest car out there when I am perfecly legal. I had a problem with a brand new tire and wheel leaking. Terry Henry had the tire mounted ready to go for me when I got to the track. I told him it was leaking and he gave me a new ring to put on it. After the heat we were sure the problem was fixed. My right rear air pressure was at 31 lbs when I went on the track for the main. About 15 laps into the race a fellow competitor turned into me on the front straight, hooked my right rear with his bumper and damaged my beadlock ring ( on the tape you can actually see sparks fly from the wheel ). About 5 laps later I thought something was wrong because the handling started to change. The car was getting loose. I kept getting the thumbs up signal from my crew so I thought I was just being paranoid. I was suprised when I pulled to the scales to see all the people around my car. When I got to the tech pad I could not believe the whining. At that time I walked to my right rear and could not believe how low it was. It was flat( I didnt put a guage on it but i would be suprised if it had 10 lbs. in it). It's not like there was 26 lbs. to make it look like I was running low pressure, the tire was flat!
I feel that the DQ was a political decision because of all the whining going on. If it would have been anyone else, or not been my 8th win I'm sure I would not have been DQ'ed.
I understand that people may be frustrated with me winning but it is not easy for me. There are lot of people that work their a$$ off to help me keep the car going and keep it fast. I don't have someone footing the bill for me and I don't pay someone to work on my car.
It sucks that we can work so hard all year to have it taken away by something like this. I got to see alot of people's true colors last night .Thats okay though, we'll be back next week to get win #9. I'm sure that will p!$$ alot of people off. I think that comment about the mighty bead by snoopy was a low blow because they loaned me that wheel the last race. Snoopy your nose is so brown I can smell the sh!t over here. Keep kissing Richie's a$$ and maybe you can get some of his money too.

Title: Re: Johnson clinches Hobby tiltle
Post by snoopy22 on 09/10/06 at 9:05pm

you know what Chad we have always been there for you I don't know why you have to slam us that way!!!! Richie had a concern about a leaking wheel just like when you borrowed it. Always willing to loan parts not KISSING A$$ like you say we are!!!

Title: Re: Johnson clinches Hobby tiltle
Post by BALLJNTBUSTER32 on 09/10/06 at 9:17pm

Wo Chad! I understand your anger but any thing I give Mike, he has earned. Nobody is sucking up to me. You got screwed and of all people I understand how you feel. Tina was DQ'd last year twice, once for a rocker arm that Mike Thomas approved just two weeks before opening day and then again for a starter that was a Delco Remy starter just not year, make and model for which the rules did not specify. This air pressure rule is BS but don't pregnant dog at us because of it. Besides I was told you were low on air pressure before you went out and all you did was add air. That doesn't fix a leaky wheel.

Title: Re: Johnson clinches Hobby tiltle
Post by Perrin on 09/10/06 at 9:48pm

Chad your not the only one dq'ed on tire pressure. Just in my case it didn't matter. But i agree with everyones sentiments that it is not a logical rule and it was applied wrongly.

In fact I don't even understand the rule or how it got started in the first place.

Title: Re: Johnson clinches Hobby tiltle
Post by 8wins on 09/10/06 at 9:53pm

I truly feel that if I can't win I want Mike to win. After last night I don't think the feeling is mutual. I really took that mighty bead comment as a slam towards me. I also took the "at least we get to see Tina finish second!!!" comment as a slam. My crew and I as well as my family in the stands have to put up with alot of trash talking by people with other teams. Tina was one of the louder ones on the tech pad as well as Janell. It's getting old.
I am no longer angry, now I'm going to get even, by winning my 9th race. I understand why the track made their decision. I have won the last 2 races, and to be honest, it wasn't fun because I pi$$ed people off doing so. Next week I'm gonna have fun pi$$ing people off by winning.

Title: Re: Johnson clinches Hobby tiltle
Post by 8wins on 09/10/06 at 9:55pm

To me Perrin, the difference between you and I is, you were at 26 lbs. Kinda makes it look like you were running low pressure. My tire was flat, I was lucky to finish the race.

Title: Re: Johnson clinches Hobby tiltle
Post by 8wins on 09/10/06 at 10:01pm

After an american stock race earlier in the year the pill was puuled to check brakes. One driver had no rear brakes and said the line broke during the race and pumped all the fluid out. Seeing the broken line and understanding there are some things you cannot control, he was not disqualified. I feel I should have been treated the same way. My beadlock ring is damaged from the hit during the race.

Title: Re: Johnson clinches Hobby tiltle
Post by snoopy22 on 09/10/06 at 10:04pm

well chad I guess that is yoiur opinion I never felt like I was slamming you!!! but if you feel that way that is your problem. I thought I was a member of your family but apparently I must not be!!!! So good luck to you I won't want to be accused of slamming you. All we did was off a tire to another team but apparently that was a bad thing to do in your eyes. As routing for Tina the way I see your mathmatically out of the running for 2nd or am I wrong!!!!!!

Title: Re: Johnson clinches Hobby tiltle
Post by BALLJNTBUSTER32 on 09/10/06 at 10:05pm

I havn't talked to Tina. But if she was gloating in any way, that is wrong. I know she holds some resentment from the last race towards you for slamming her into the wall but that does not excuse any shiiiit talk. As far as you winning the next race, I guess you have as good of a chance as any one. But my money is on Tina or Mike.

Title: Re: Johnson clinches Hobby tiltle
Post by BALLJNTBUSTER32 on 09/10/06 at 10:08pm

wrote on 09/10/06 at 10:01pm:

I just got IM from one of the Tech's and he said there was no damage to your Bead Lock.

Title: Re: Johnson clinches Hobby tiltle
Post by 8wins on 09/10/06 at 10:12pm

BALLJNTBUSTER32 wrote on 09/10/06 at 10:08pm:

I just got IM from one of the Tech's and he said there was no damage to your Bead Lock.

It is. There was a lot of people around Mike and I'm sure he had alot going through his mind at the time. Maybe he didn't see it. My brother told me last night it was damaged, though I did not verify that until today.

Title: Re: Johnson clinches Hobby tiltle
Post by 8wins on 09/10/06 at 10:16pm

After the race I thought Terry should refund my money for the wheel. Unfortunately the wheel was damaged during the race and I am out hopefully just the money for the ring.

Title: Re: Johnson clinches Hobby tiltle
Post by Perrin on 09/10/06 at 10:19pm

Well if I had a faster leak maybee i'd have a faster car.

Title: Re: Johnson clinches Hobby tiltle
Post by 8wins on 09/10/06 at 10:21pm

BALLJNTBUSTER32 wrote on 09/10/06 at 10:05pm:

You can't honestly think I slammed her into the wall. She darn near stopped in the middle of 3-4. I locked up the brakes and was very lucky I didn't sustain major damage. Later in the race when she pulled up beside me under yellow, I couldn't beleive she was still on the track. I thought she broke something.

Title: Re: Johnson clinches Hobby tiltle
Post by 8wins on 09/10/06 at 10:28pm

Perrin wrote on 09/10/06 at 10:19pm:

Well if I had a faster leak maybee i'd have a faster car.

good one lol but with those upper a-arm mounts moved, I don't doubt you were running low air pressure.

Title: Re: Johnson clinches Hobby tiltle
Post by Perrin on 09/10/06 at 11:24pm

Sorry, I guess I need to adjust the front geometry, I wasn't hitting everyone on the track!

Title: Re: Johnson clinches Hobby tiltle
Post by JOHNSON MOTORSPORTS 1 on 09/10/06 at 11:52pm

wow. im about to go to bed. i honestly cant believe the sh!t i have been reading on here. this thread has gotten out of hand. chad i think u have issues. im sorry yeah ur my cousin but i can not and will not tollerate u talking to my mother that way. so if u could leave ur comments to urself. i dont know everything about cars but when i can help someone at the track i do if im not working on my car. i have loaned out my spare axles more than once this year. hell i even helps them change the axles so they would be in the main. and saterday u needed some hose becuase ur dip stick was leaking and i had hose in the trailor and i let ur dad cut the little bit he needed to fix the oil leak on ur car. we all race for fun im sorry that u got DQed but u cant change it. and in my opinion ur dad was way out of line throwing tools and stuff at the tech pad. he could have hit someone and really hurt them. but he didnt seem to care becuase he was still cussing and yelling the whole time till he stormed off. and i was talking good about u today how i thought u handled it all well when u were pleaing with mike not to DQ u, u were talking u didnt yell raise ur voice or anything but after what u have wrote on here today i have lost some respect for u. im sorry that u feel the way u do but DO NOT TALK BAD ABOUT MY MOTHER OR FAMILY.
P.S. UR NOT THE ONLY ONE THAT CAN WIN THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE OUT THERE THAT CAN WIN ON ANY GIVEN NIGHT SUCH AS MIKE,ERIC,TINA,JACKY,TOM,CLYDE,HELL I DONT KNOW MAYBE EVEN ME. SO U SHOULD PUT UR HEAD ON ICE SO THE SWELLING CAN GO DOWN.

Title: Re: Johnson clinches Hobby tiltle
Post by dirtboxhero on 09/11/06 at 10:37am

so it sounds like its not just lower end racers that are upset at the way things are being handled at the track, but also the front runners as well....congrats to mike j for clinching the championship.....congrats to kevin as well for the win on sat....chad sorry about the dq.....one thing i think that needs to be rethought for next year is the cause and collect rule....all its done is let people get away with the bump and spin job in all classes....hopefully thats rethought for next year....

Title: Re: Johnson clinches Hobby tiltle
Post by TIM_BEWLEY on 09/11/06 at 4:12pm

Perrin wrote on 09/10/06 at 9:48pm:

In fact I don't even understand the rule or how it got started in the first place.

ask chad jefferys. he's the one that made the rule. it has stuck ever since.

Title: Re: Johnson clinches Hobby tiltle
Post by bakoracer8 on 09/11/06 at 4:50pm

The rule is like this, if we make the rule 30 psi at the start of the race then we might as well ok bleeders on the tires. With a small file and a razor blade you can make a pretty effective bleeder out of a standard valve stem. This would put a clear advantage to the people running Beedlocks. As they can handel the lower air pressure. If you have a problem with the rule put a tube in it they are only $7.50 cheap insurance. I don't get a big head and all happy having to DQ someone in fact just the oppisite. It makes me sick, real sick. The rule will stand and if I had to do it again I would make beadlocks (tube mandatory).

Mike

Title: Re: Johnson clinches Hobby tiltle
Post by 8wins on 09/11/06 at 6:03pm

I tried to put a tube in a beadlock the year before last. No matter what the tube would get cut. The problem is most beadlocks were not made for street tires and they definately were not made to hold 30 psi. With these radials that we run, I wouldnt think you would run less than 25 psi in the RR anyway. In my expirience, the tires want to be AIRED UP. But what do I know.
also the rule says 30 psi at all times. Is 31 illegal. It just irritates me that there are cars out there with the upper control arm mounts moved and nothing is being done about it, and I get DQ for a flat tire. If mine or Mike's control arm mounts were moved we would hear about it. Worst part is now without money from the track I really can't afford to race this weekend. ZI'm trying to round up $75 for pit pass and gas.

Title: Re: Johnson clinches Hobby tiltle
Post by DaveBauerSS6 on 09/11/06 at 9:29pm

Tim.... I won't repeat what Chads reply was, but it was Randall that changed the RR rim rule to beadlock with 30# pressure. The issue started with the Big O tires having a problem slipping off the rim. This was Randalls solution.

My opinion is this beadlock is a unnesssary expense for a economy class, for a good tire now that works fine on a regular rim.

Title: Re: Johnson clinches Hobby tiltle
Post by lmfan01 on 09/11/06 at 10:52pm

True statement DAVE The bead lock is an over ratted expence

Title: Re: Johnson clinches Hobby tiltle
Post by Chad_E._Jeffreys on 09/11/06 at 11:55pm

First of all I would like to say it's really B.S. that you guys keep bringing up the past, God let it go!!! That rule wasn't written by me and you can tell that by how stupid it is!!! All of you " CAN NOT LET THE PAST GO" girls can kiss my hairy ass. The rule is stupid but you agreed to it when you showed up to race, so FREAKIN LIVE WITH IT !!!! With that said leave me out of your drama and leave me alone, I haven't raddled any of your cage in some time. Tim, get your facts straight before you open your mouth, it just makes you look like a trouble maker, fun for you I,m sure but not for me!!! I mean what I said guys, leave me out!!!! Chad

Title: Re: Johnson clinches Hobby tiltle
Post by dirtboxhero on 09/12/06 at 7:19am

first of i understand that hobbies arent as expensive as supers...but they sure as hell arent an "economy" class....we havent ran a beadlock and when that track gets super slick...if we hit one of those ruts the wrong way ....off comes the tire...its happened like 2 or 3 times so me personally ...i think the bead lock does help

Title: Re: Johnson clinches Hobby tiltle
Post by BALLJNTBUSTER32 on 09/12/06 at 10:02am

Hey, I think we have all gotton bit by some BS rule. But I think you can throw that political crap out the window. I've supported the track in more ways than I can count and my cars have been DQ'd more than I care to count and on some pretty weak shiiit, sorry. Heck look at what they have done to their own family. Randy Schwietzer has been DQ'd more times than anybody in the history of the Speedway. Justin Schwietzer once came off the track in 5th but got DQ'd for not going to tech. He didn't know the score keepers penalized a couple of cars for jumping the start on the last yellow and he pits right next to the tech area. Bottom line, some of us like to straddle the line on whats legal and whats not. I'm sure it will happen to us again, I just hope I handle it with a little more dignity than I have in the past (probably not, ha ha) or at least with more dignity than Chad has handled it with. Wow

Title: Re: Johnson clinches Hobby tiltle
Post by 8wins on 09/12/06 at 10:40am

Should I have asked to buy them a new air pressure guage???
It's all good now. I'm gonna take my own advice and quit whining and have fun. Sometimes it takes a couple days to calm down.
I understand that people wanting me to fail is just something that comes with the territory. It is something that you have been through, Scott and Brad have been through and countless others have been through. It's just something I have to learn to deal with.
You were pressing the rule with the weight deal earlier in the year. You were pressing the rule with the starter. If you had to ask Mike about the rockers you probly thought they could be illegal. All things you had control over.
I was legal when I went out on the track, I can't control everything that happens on the track.

Title: Re: Johnson clinches Hobby tiltle
Post by BALLJNTBUSTER32 on 09/12/06 at 11:07am

Man you just can't stop. You know when I started this thread I was completly on your side, Chad. What was I thinking. But I will make my last post on this thread in the way I titled this thread.

"Congradultions to Mike Johnson for Back to Back Championships" Awsome Job.

Richie

Title: Re: Johnson clinches Hobby tiltle
Post by 8wins on 09/12/06 at 11:18am

First- I stopped, you got on here and tried to stir nuts up

Second-
Helluva job Mike, your a "natural"

Title: Re: Johnson clinches Hobby tiltle
Post by darrll_hughes on 09/12/06 at 4:47pm

Does anybody know, what the hobbie tire rules are for the nationals? I want to bring my Hobbie stock that I run at stockton 99, but all I have are asphalt tires.

Title: Re: Johnson clinches Hobby tiltle
Post by dirtboxhero on 09/12/06 at 4:50pm

the max is a 15x8 but i think they allow you to run any street tread tire (not off road or snow tires) but bakersfield speedways regular points race tire is the kuhmo touring tire sizes 215, 225, 235 70r 15

Title: Re: Johnson clinches Hobby tiltle
Post by darrll_hughes on 09/12/06 at 5:15pm

I wonder if they would let me cut my asphalt tires. Its been a long expensive season. Dirt tires arent in the budget. There are about 4-5 cars that would like to try the dirt.What is the weight rule at the nationals?

Title: Re: Johnson clinches Hobby tiltle
Post by woodracin13 on 09/12/06 at 5:43pm

Darrell,
I believe that the rules are the same as the Hobby Stock Twin 50's.
Any 8" street legal tire, 3400lbs weight limit at anytime with driver. one 2 brl or one 4 brl carb.

The flyer is on
www.bakersfieldspeedway.com
it has the rules for the Twin 50's and I think they are the same for the Nationals.