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Message started by hogracer3d on 09/24/06 at 8:39pm

Title: I thinK it's BS
Post by hogracer3d on 09/24/06 at 8:39pm

That I built an "Open Comp Car", this time last year, in hopes of going to Bako to grab the "Bud Nationals" hoop-la.
Low and behold, It looks like we have been excluded from competition because of the slope of our filler panel.

Let's see, I can take the sprint car motor and put a carb on and run, have 9" tires, and loads of other crap, and they are concerned with the slope of my filler panel?

I am a very paitent guy, but having had just hung a new body and nose, Fallon, NV is looking better for our 5-car group.


Just that it be known, we don't even have a MD nose, we run a ARP (Aluminum Racing Products).

We just can't take the chance of submitting our team's non-refundable entry, only to be disallowed a fair shot

Woops, I don't want Billy to think I am begging to race again---Dave

And just so that you don't think I'm a pu$$y, we'll be fresh off of the Reno race, and home by Monday, and have to change the trans, Tires, Wheels, and several other items that don't pass Reno spec's, and have to be ready by Friday?

Title: Re: I thinK it's BS
Post by Chris_Kearns on 09/24/06 at 9:59pm

It's OPEN COMP, I'm sure your nose panel will be fine.

Title: Re: I thinK it's BS
Post by hogracer3d on 09/24/06 at 10:12pm

That's what I thought too, but I have been instructed otherwise--DT

Title: Re: I thinK it's BS
Post by Poorboy on 09/24/06 at 10:25pm

Didn't they let Pounds and Corwin run a  filler panel this year ? The rules say no LM MD noses. Does that mean you can run a reg LM nose? It seems kinda odd that they won't allow one in an open comp race.

Title: Re: I thinK it's BS
Post by Poorboy on 09/24/06 at 10:30pm

Wasn't the nose on Robby's car off his asphalt late model? I think I remember him saying that in one of his posts. Maybe there goals is to not have a full on LM nose that sticks out 5ft in front of the car.

Title: Re: I thinK it's BS
Post by hogracer3d on 09/24/06 at 10:37pm


Poorboy wrote on 09/24/06 at 10:25pm:
Didn't they let Pounds and Corwin run a  filler panel this year ? The rules say no LM MD noses. Does that mean you can run a reg LM nose? It seems kinda odd that they won't allow one in an open comp race.



here it is

http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h136/hogracer3d/DSC02450.jpg






Title: Re: I thinK it's BS
Post by Poorboy on 09/24/06 at 10:40pm

Didn't you run that there at the begining of the year in the 100 lapper?

Title: Re: I thinK it's BS
Post by hogracer3d on 09/24/06 at 10:42pm

That is a photo from the Bottoms up 100--Dave

Title: Re: I thinK it's BS
Post by imracin68j on 09/24/06 at 11:03pm

I dont care what you run at the Bud Nationals...  Run a wedge with sideboards.

If your talking about the EW rules that all the contributing drivers AGREED on then ya, I'm for those rules on EW races.  Since it's not a EW race, no one really has any input on the rules other than the track itself.

Title: Re: I thinK it's BS
Post by robbySAWYER on 09/25/06 at 6:35am

ha u wouldnt think they would turn away a car count... but just to clarify...
1. corwins nose is not a late model nose it is a 5 star performance nose, just like mine was
2 the rules just say 5 star perfpormance nose, no wedge style
3 yes brad's was like that so i am not sure why they will not let you run here with us
u do enough sweet talking they will let u. so dont give up... jsut keep calling lol...

Title: Re: I thinK it's BS
Post by sj_valley_dave on 09/25/06 at 9:24am

I am also a little surprisec that there si any kind of stink in re: to the nose pirces for the "Open Show"  Don't think that will be a problem at the other Open Comp races...

Title: Re: I thinK it's BS
Post by hogracer3d on 09/25/06 at 1:45pm


sj_valley_dave wrote on 09/25/06 at 9:24am:
I am also a little surprisec that there si any kind of stink in re: to the nose pirces for the "Open Show"  Don't think that will be a problem at the other Open Comp races...


Ran it 3 times at Chow, 1 at Bako, 1 at Perris, and 1 at Hanford this year, and I didn't hear a word about it.

Title: Re: I thinK it's BS
Post by dannyracer6 on 09/25/06 at 1:48pm

Don't be too sure...I wanted to run my I-4 mod with the open comp mini mods and because I and some of the others from Madera dont have front fenders, we cant run either...You would think that open means open who cars about a little sheet metal or plastic up front. Car count is what brings fans.. I understand a sanctioned poin ts race on a weekly basis the cars need to conform,but this is different. It is the end of the year. Who is going to hang a new body on for one race...?dr6

Title: Re: I thinK it's BS
Post by TIM_BEWLEY on 09/25/06 at 3:48pm


wrote on 09/25/06 at 6:35am:
but just to clarify...
1. corwins nose is not a late model nose it is a 5 star performance nose, just like mine was


robby, so what kind of 5 star nose is it?

Title: Re: I thinK it's BS
Post by robbySAWYER on 09/25/06 at 5:53pm

i dunno. who cares run what ya brung. just the speedway

Title: Re: I thinK it's BS
Post by bakoracer8 on 09/25/06 at 6:36pm

The flyer is supposed to say Bakersfield Street Stock Rules apply with the following exceptions: Blah, Blah Blah. Nobody wanted them through the year but now it is ok? This is not an Open Comp race if it was we would let the cars that have been calling us from Nevada come with their J-Bars and Fully adjustable 4-links. How would you like that. Oh I forgot it would give you guys something else to come up to me and B*TCH about. Just round out your nose and come race not a big deal. RULE STANDS.

THANK YOU
MIKE THOMAS
HEAD TECH BAKERSFIELD SPEEDWAY

Title: Re: I thinK it's BS
Post by hogracer3d on 09/25/06 at 6:46pm

Wow, I had planned on running the 3-link, you mean I can't do that either?

Title: Re: I thinK it's BS
Post by imracin68j on 09/25/06 at 6:58pm

well it looks like you might have to bring out ol' faithful..lol  

Title: Re: I thinK it's BS
Post by jrtracing on 09/25/06 at 7:11pm

Man, I just built some front fenders for my old mod too.

Title: Re: I thinK it's BS
Post by imracin68j on 09/25/06 at 7:24pm

Hog, I got an old camaro.  Want me to torch off the fenders so you can change them at the track?

Title: Re: I thinK it's BS
Post by hogracer3d on 09/25/06 at 7:43pm


imracin68j wrote on 09/25/06 at 6:58pm:
well it looks like you might have to bring out ol' faithful..lol  



I loaned it to a friend to run Reno-Fernley

Title: Re: I thinK it's BS
Post by Sparky56 on 09/25/06 at 7:49pm

Just go to Hanford and Pahrump..........

Title: Re: I thinK it's BS
Post by hogracer3d on 09/25/06 at 7:51pm


imracin68j wrote on 09/25/06 at 7:24pm:
Hog, I got an old camaro.  Want me to torch off the fenders so you can change them at the track?


I actually have a new Lumina tailpiece from the old car we were thinking of mounting on the front, so they would think we were going backwards :)

Title: Re: I thinK it's BS
Post by DaveBauerSS6 on 09/25/06 at 7:53pm

He'll be wasting his time, I'm running both. Second wont cover his expenses!! LOL!

Title: Re: I thinK it's BS
Post by hogracer3d on 09/25/06 at 7:59pm


DaveBauerSC6 wrote on 09/25/06 at 7:53pm:
He'll be wasteing his time, I running both. Second wont cover his expanses!! LOL!



Ouch, that one stung a little!!

Title: Re: I thinK it's BS
Post by DaveBauerSS6 on 09/25/06 at 8:02pm

Just have Chris readjust the nose on a slow cars rear bumper in Reno!

Title: Re: I thinK it's BS
Post by hogracer3d on 09/25/06 at 8:19pm


Sparky56 wrote on 09/25/06 at 7:49pm:
Just go to Hanford and Pahrump..........



Nope, looks like Reno on the 7th and 8th, and then Rattlesnake on the 14th and 15th ( $100 entry car and driver both days, $ 20 pit pass).
Same rules as Reno, and all 5 cars don't have to change a thing.

Title: Re: I thinK it's BS
Post by 3dshoe on 09/25/06 at 8:35pm

My Chevron card is gonna take a beating, hope to see most of you in El Centro. I hope Pahrump doesn't follow Bako's example. Chris

Title: Re: I thinK it's BS
Post by imracin68j on 09/25/06 at 9:25pm


Sparky56 wrote on 09/25/06 at 7:49pm:
Just go to Hanford and Pahrump..........


Bakophobia

Title: Re: I thinK it's BS
Post by hogracer3d on 09/25/06 at 9:34pm


Bakophobia


Now that's funny--:)

Title: Re: I thinK it's BS
Post by lmfan01 on 09/25/06 at 9:42pm

do we need some cheese with all that whineeeeeeee

Title: Re: I thinK it's BS
Post by sj_valley_dave on 09/26/06 at 8:22am

Hey 3D, you need to go to the Pahrump site. They have the rules on there now. They are a lot more relaxed than the Bako rules. You should plan on November 10-11 to be in Pahrump. If you are not going to be at Hanford Oct 6-7 see ya in Chow!

Title: Re: I thinK it's BS
Post by hogracer3d on 09/26/06 at 8:43am

We are planning to run Reno, Fallon, Chow, Pahrump, ElCentro and Perris if they have it.
This was our plan for over a year now with the exception of having to replace Bako with Fallon at the last minute-- Dave

Title: Re: I thinK it's BS
Post by sj_valley_dave on 09/26/06 at 9:03am

Speaking of Perris, have you heard anymore about an Open Race? Last I heard was maybe adding some additional classes.......

Title: Re: I thinK it's BS
Post by hogracer3d on 09/26/06 at 9:13am

Yes, Scott Daloisio pm'd me and said that  it is not looking good, but he is still trying--Dave.

Hey I just found a new  facility, " The Wild Horse Ranch" outside of Fallon, I might not be home till Tuesday--:)

Woops, I might have to go to the Summit store in Sparks and use my friend's Nevada Racing 10% discount to stock up, so it might be Wensday.

Title: Re: I thinK it's BS
Post by jrtracing on 09/26/06 at 9:41am

Dave T, between Reno, Fallon, and Pahrump, you may need to pace yourself a little. I don't want to hear your going to miss Chow because you decided to stay in Fallon until you leave for Pahrump either.

Title: Re: I thinK it's BS
Post by hogracer3d on 09/26/06 at 1:54pm

What do they say Lee " I'm not as good as I once was, but I'm as good once as I ever was-:) )

Title: Re: I thinK it's BS
Post by 3dshoe on 09/26/06 at 1:58pm


jrtracing wrote on 09/26/06 at 9:41am:
Dave T, between Reno, Fallon, and Pahrump, you may need to pace yourself a little. I don't want to hear your going to miss Chow because you decided to stay in Fallon until you leave for Pahrump either.



Nevada is becoming a beautiful state.

Title: Re: I thinK it's BS
Post by igolow on 09/26/06 at 2:36pm

Lets see if I got this right, you build a car for open shows only, the SS division has a meeting to develop a 3 year rules package, your car doesnt meet those rules, you dont race Bakersfields shows in 06 and support the program, now them bastards wont let you run the nationals. I dont blame you a bit for coimg on here and telling them how no good they are, tech people suck. Let him race! hes done so much for them, Let him race! Bakersfield should be asshamed of themselfs.

Title: Re: I thinK it's BS
Post by mudslinger47 on 09/26/06 at 4:25pm


wrote on 09/26/06 at 2:36pm:
Lets see if I got this right, you build a car for open shows only, the SS division has a meeting to develop a 3 year rules package, your car doesnt meet those rules, you dont race Bakersfields shows in 06 and support the program, now them bastards wont let you run the nationals. I dont blame you a bit for coimg on here and telling them how no good they are, tech people suck. Let him race! hes done so much for them, Let him race! Bakersfield should be asshamed of themselfs.

I believe that there would be called a ZINGER!!  lol Duane

Title: Re: I thinK it's BS
Post by SS72 on 09/26/06 at 4:41pm

If Bako's SS dvison is doing so well, that the tech guy is turning cars away cars and paying $$$$ customers that would help the purse or the track (which ever)from out of state and in state, it would also help the level of competition, but yet they only have enough cars to only run on Friday night only, and years past, it use to be 2 nights of racing for SS divison. There's somthing wrong with that picture!!! Well 3D I guess will take our $$$, abuse the credit cards and go race Fallon, Chow, Pahrump, El Centro and Perris??.

Title: Re: I thinK it's BS
Post by 3dshoe on 09/26/06 at 4:51pm


wrote on 09/26/06 at 2:36pm:
Lets see if I got this right, you build a car for open shows only, the SS division has a meeting to develop a 3 year rules package, your car doesnt meet those rules, you dont race Bakersfields shows in 06 and support the program, now them bastards wont let you run the nationals. I dont blame you a bit for coimg on here and telling them how no good they are, tech people suck. Let him race! hes done so much for them, Let him race! Bakersfield should be asshamed of themselfs.



Sorry ,I missed what car you drive?

Title: Re: I thinK it's BS
Post by dirtboxhero on 09/26/06 at 4:51pm

i see what your saying 3d about your body.....i think the rule should have been inforced from the begining....but they made brad change his car....so why cant you change yours? i why would you make a ss look like a late model? and this is not made to offend at all...jmo

Title: Re: I thinK it's BS
Post by hogracer3d on 09/26/06 at 6:55pm


wrote on 09/26/06 at 2:36pm:
Lets see if I got this right, you build a car for open shows only, the SS division has a meeting to develop a 3 year rules package, your car doesnt meet those rules, you dont race Bakersfields shows in 06 and support the program, now them bastards wont let you run the nationals. I dont blame you a bit for coimg on here and telling them how no good they are, tech people suck. Let him race! hes done so much for them, Let him race! Bakersfield should be asshamed of themselfs.



No I actually think that the real reason is that if our car were slower it wouldn't even be an issue!

If I had not loaned the old Bud Nationals and High Desert Shootout Champion car out we might have come out to see if we could better last years 3rd place finish in the Nats

It is fairly hard to support a track on a weekly basis that is over 120 miles away.

Title: Re: I thinK it's BS
Post by imracin68j on 09/26/06 at 6:57pm

Just show up..  Whats the worst they can do.. tell you to add 300 lbs

Title: Re: I thinK it's BS
Post by P.MARTIN SS11 on 09/26/06 at 7:01pm

3D are you guys coming to Kings

Title: Re: I thinK it's BS
Post by imracin68j on 09/26/06 at 7:01pm


hogracer3d wrote on 09/26/06 at 6:55pm:
It is fairly hard to support a track on a weekly basis that is over 120 miles away.


Dont tell the east west drivers that

Title: Re: I thinK it's BS
Post by hogracer3d on 09/26/06 at 7:14pm


DiRtBoX4k wrote on 09/26/06 at 4:51pm:
i see what your saying 3d about your body.....i think the rule should have been inforced from the begining....but they made brad change his car....so why cant you change yours? i why would you make a ss look like a late model? and this is not made to offend at all...jmo


In all reality, this car was built as a Victorville Super Street  that would have also been legal for Perris, Reno, Fallon, El Centro, but could be easily converted to run Open Shows.

IMO, if you were to remove all of the bodies and carefully examine the chassis that run in the front at Bako, I think you would find that we are at a disadvantage rather than an advantage.

I personally like the look of the "Batmobile" and it was purely a personal preferance that it resembles it's big brothers, the late models.

If you take a look at the big picture, the super street type cars across the nation more closely resemble the 3D than the typical Bako car.

I wanted the leather this year, but as I said I am very patient, so we will have some fun despite our little set-back, and regroup for next year.

Title: Re: I thinK it's BS
Post by imracin68j on 09/26/06 at 7:17pm


hogracer3d wrote on 09/26/06 at 6:55pm:
It is fairly hard to support a track on a weekly basis that is over 120 miles away.


Don't tell the east west drivers that

Title: Re: I thinK it's BS
Post by hogracer3d on 09/26/06 at 7:17pm


imracin68j wrote on 09/26/06 at 6:57pm:
Just show up..  Whats the worst they can do.. tell you to add 300 lbs



That's easy enough, then I could drive it--DT

Title: Re: I thinK it's BS
Post by hogracer3d on 09/26/06 at 7:21pm


P.MARTIN SS11 wrote on 09/26/06 at 7:01pm:
3D are you guys coming to Kings


No, we have to go and try regain our title at Reno that weekend

We should be going for our 3rd in a row but Ughhh, well you know how those driver thingey's go.

But I paid him back good when I left the pitman arm bolt loose at Chow and cost us a shot at the Freedom Series title--:(


Title: Re: I thinK it's BS
Post by hogracer3d on 09/27/06 at 7:23pm


bakoracer8 wrote on 09/25/06 at 6:36pm:
The flyer is supposed to say Bakersfield Street Stock Rules apply with the following exceptions: Blah, Blah Blah. Nobody wanted them through the year but now it is ok? This is not an Open Comp race if it was we would let the cars that have been calling us from Nevada come with their J-Bars and Fully adjustable 4-links. How would you like that. Oh I forgot it would give you guys something else to come up to me and B*TCH about. Just round out your nose and come race not a big deal. RULE STANDS.

THANK YOU
MIKE THOMAS
HEAD TECH BAKERSFIELD SPEEDWAY



I am actually glad this thread came about because I and many other people were under the impression that the Bud Nationals were an open show with a few rules, but in reality it is a regular show with a few rules.

I fully planned on showing up (even if we had changed the nose) with the crossovers, aluminum calipers, 3-link, and as many things as the bag-o-tricks had to offer.

So this thread could well have saved me quite a bit of dough and headache.

Title: Re: I thinK it's BS
Post by roadrunnerjw on 10/02/06 at 3:35pm

I thought the Bud Nationals was an OPEN COMP RACE?
bring it and race it

Title: Re: I thinK it's BS
Post by imracin68j on 10/02/06 at 4:06pm

I've run a 3 link as have others at the Bud Nationals.  Theres no cu inch rule (or is there?) so its not really a "bakersfield rules apply race" The body rule on the nose appears to be cut and dry on the rules however.

Title: Re: I thinK it's BS
Post by bakoracer8 on 10/02/06 at 4:56pm

It is a Bako Rules apply race if you want it changed call Ivan or Scott. We did not want an Open Comp race for fear no one would show thinking they could not compete. I say leave it as is and change it next year if open comp is what you want. We wanted to pull as many people as possible that supported Bako this year. Not the teams that only run for the big money. Not to offend anyone, just to show appreation to the loyal supporters that are there each week. No hate mail please that is not what we tried to do.

Mike

Title: Re: I thinK it's BS
Post by jrtracing on 10/03/06 at 7:31pm


imracin68j wrote on 10/02/06 at 4:06pm:
I've run a 3 link as have others at the Bud Nationals.  Theres no cu inch rule (or is there?) so its not really a "bakersfield rules apply race" The body rule on the nose appears to be cut and dry on the rules however.


I called the speedway today. There is a cubic inch rule for the Nats. Bako rules apply except for the rules mentioned on the flier.

Title: Re: I thinK it's BS
Post by DaveBauerSS6 on 10/03/06 at 11:11pm

So we started a CID rule for this year?? I think this is a big mistake. Not the same Bud Nats anymore??

Mike,, we needed some notice for the change, I just finished changing out motors???
I guess I'll find another place to break in the 434.

I thought the SMS call on Hoods SS chassis was the boner of the year; this one doubles that.

Title: Re: I thinK it's BS
Post by hogracer3d on 10/04/06 at 6:19am


DaveBauerSC6 wrote on 10/03/06 at 11:11pm:
So we started a CID rule for this year?? I think this is a big mistake. Not the same Bud Nats anymore??

Mike,, we needed some notice for the change, I just finished changing out motors???
I guess I'll find another place to break in the 434.

I thought the SMS call on Hoods SS chassis was the boner of the year; this one doubles that.


Under the hood of the 3D is a great place to break in the 434---:)

Title: Re: I thinK it's BS
Post by sj_valley_dave on 10/04/06 at 8:55am

The is the first time in how many years there is going to be a cubic inch limit??? It was always iron heads, iron blocks, period. Wow, I think this one could backfire or at the least cause some hard feelings!!!

Title: Re: I thinK it's BS
Post by imracin68j on 10/04/06 at 10:15am

If the race was a regular rules apply race they should have kept it as a point night.  It never has been. The rules on the flier should be the only rules for this race.  EVERYTHING (not just cubic inch) is a go.

Title: Re: I thinK it's BS
Post by oldman98 on 10/04/06 at 10:37am

i like the rules myself...105 " wheel base, no plus or minus 1 inch...ANY 9" tire...no crate motors...unless they have steel heads...i think these rules are great...i bet this rule changes since the crate motors used this year have alum heads...duhhhhhhhhh...

Title: Re: I thinK it's BS
Post by junior_varsity_14 on 10/04/06 at 3:24pm

do we have to wait a year to change these rules or is it possible to maybe put it to a vote?

Title: Re: I thinK it's BS
Post by dirtboxhero on 10/04/06 at 4:41pm

bako will not change those rules.....they are for sure locked til' the 3 year time is up

Title: Re: I thinK it's BS
Post by SS72 on 10/04/06 at 4:56pm

You are absolutly right!! This show has always been a run what you brung open show,that's why they called it the nationals. No cubic inch rule. the only rules were what was on the flyer, was wheel base, steel block & heads, carbs, fuel and tires. Nothing on the flyer stating Bako's rules apply. Even the different noses was ok.
imracin68j wrote on 10/04/06 at 10:15am:
If the race was a regular rules apply race they should have kept it as a point night.  It never has been. The rules on the flier should be the only rules for this race.  EVERYTHING (not just cubic inch) is a go.


Title: Re: I thinK it's BS
Post by DaveBauerSS6 on 10/04/06 at 8:56pm

So the next question is there going to be a CID tech?

Normally there is'nt much tech at the Bud, but this set of rules are different.

There should be a manditory CID inspection for the guys that are abiding by the rules.

I reread the poster and I still can't find any reference to "Bako seasonal rules Except the following......"

I feel for the guy that reads the flyer and shows with a big motor or a 3 link, no matter how far he drove.

I would be nice to think that everyone reads this board for clarification; but most dont.

On the good side while rereading the flyer, I like the split B main for qualifying. Evens out the chances to get in the main!

Title: Re: I thinK it's BS
Post by jrtracing on 10/04/06 at 9:10pm

Now rumor has it there is no CID rule again. LOL. Through this whole deal it looks like I'm going to end up at Bako with a big motor and Hanford with a point motor. Kind of backwards.

Title: Re: I thinK it's BS
Post by DaveBauerSS6 on 10/04/06 at 9:24pm


Just as long as you dont mix those gears up you'll be fine!!

Title: Re: I thinK it's BS
Post by hogracer3d on 10/05/06 at 6:16am

I hear Confucius say---

                 Big motors will be allowed or not teched

                 Chowchilla hobby's will be allowed

                 3-links allowed or not teched

                 BUT NO 3D TYPE NOSES, COME HELL OR HIGH WATER

Title: Re: I thinK it's BS
Post by mama68 on 10/05/06 at 7:08am


hogracer3d wrote on 10/05/06 at 6:16am:
I hear Confucius say---

                 Big motors will be allowed or not teched

                 Chowchilla hobby's will be allowed

                 3-links allowed or not teched

                 BUT NO 3D TYPE NOSES, COME HELL OR HIGH WATER



Gotta luv ya...........lol

Title: Re: I thinK it's BS
Post by roadrunnerjw on 10/05/06 at 1:24pm

so basically its just a regular race  last one before end of season  is all   not really any thing Nationals about it....hmmmmmmmm

Title: Re: I thinK it's BS
Post by TIM_BEWLEY on 10/05/06 at 5:40pm

4bbl, taller spoiler, bigger - softer tires. sounds like an open race to me. i have been running a 383 so i don't have to change motors. right dave b. lol

Title: Re: I thinK it's BS
Post by lmfan01 on 10/05/06 at 7:00pm

Ok  street stocks  there is no c i d rule .   so bring you big motors .   Chassie and body rule stands . no wedge noses  no 4 bar or 3 link or Z link .    No alum heads or blocks .  unless you are running the crate motor .     Thats the best I can do for you guys.        Jimmy

Title: Re: I thinK it's BS
Post by oldman98 on 10/05/06 at 7:33pm

thank you jimmy...i just knew that they would be changed...

Title: Re: I thinK it's BS
Post by imracin68j on 10/05/06 at 7:38pm

How can you ok what some guys want and not others?  It should go by the flier that was sent out to everyone which has been the same for years.

Title: Re: I thinK it's BS
Post by oldman98 on 10/05/06 at 7:48pm

now billy...you know jimmy's driving the house car so you knew that the head rule was going to be changed...duhhhhhhh...the rules are right there on the flyer...like no one noticed...its better to change them now then at the race on friday night...wait...more changes coming soon...so keep those computers running for more to come...i think they should keep the rules they had on the flyer cause thats what everyone is going by...or at least they thought...

bitter oldman98

Title: Re: I thinK it's BS
Post by imracin68j on 10/05/06 at 7:55pm


oldman98 wrote on 10/05/06 at 7:48pm:
bitter oldman98



haaaaa..  so true

Title: Re: I thinK it's BS
Post by oldman98 on 10/05/06 at 8:15pm

hehehe...so true billy...so true...i can bet you that the subjects that i have spoke about will stay on top of the page...bitter oldman98...

Title: Re: I thinK it's BS
Post by onebkrsfldgrl on 10/05/06 at 9:26pm

question, what about the people that dont read the internet ??? how are they to know 1 week before ?

michele

Title: Re: I thinK it's BS
Post by oldman98 on 10/06/06 at 7:20am

michele...i don't aggree much with u sometimes but u r 110 percent correct...u have said it the best...

Title: Re: I thinK it's BS
Post by bakoracer8 on 10/06/06 at 4:16pm

If you all were so worried about the other guy maybe Robby would still be racing in the Nats. And it was for Robby's statement about taking out the 34 car on purpose because he was too slow that got Robby suspended, Oh yea that was a quote from Robby.


Title: Re: I thinK it's BS
Post by bakoracer8 on 10/06/06 at 4:21pm

One more thing is that word of mouth is the best way to spread a word, you could bet if I were to only allow 283cid in streets the word would get out to everyone in about 2 minutes and I would have about 130 IM's complaining about it. If every person tells one person over the next week 95% of all racers will here about it, you can count on it.

Title: Re: I thinK it's BS
Post by onebkrsfldgrl on 10/06/06 at 6:46pm

oldman, that right there is the reason why you dont agree with what i say, because i dont hold back.

your son is a very disrespectful person and that my friend is why he is not welcome or wanted out there.

his mouth overruns his hind end, more than you know, if anything Robby needs to work on his manners and people skills. do you really think that with his manners, he is going anywhere, well i really do hope so, but until he learns a little manners.....

Michele

Title: Re: I thinK it's BS
Post by oldman98 on 10/06/06 at 9:14pm

mike...i was not at the meeting just like yourself...its funny that robby posted why ivan suspended him...robby was at the meeting and it was not for taking out sean...i guess now the reason has changed...i guess what you were told and posted sounds better...

sell it now...

Title: Re: I thinK it's BS
Post by oldman98 on 10/06/06 at 9:27pm

michele...i'm so sorry, but he was not rasied that way...i am guessing that he has tweeked you at the track...oh well...get over it and move on...i will have to give him an at-a-boy when he gets home...by the way, have we ever met...he really doesn't get it from strangers...and the fruit doesn't fall far from the tree...i guess i'm just better at it then him...he will learn as he gets older...

Title: Re: I thinK it's BS
Post by robbySAWYER on 10/06/06 at 11:58pm

hey mike before you open your mouth like all you officials do, u might want to get ur facts straight,
first off the deal with sean, i told them that he was all over the track and he cut me off twice after that i was tired of it and i was just going to punt him, not take him out, and out bumpers hooked and thats what spun us, ... you were not at the meeting, nor did you hear a recording of, so dont comment, and michelle... haha i cant wait to start on you...
not sure who you are, but... haha this cracks me up, u say my "people skills" lol thats why i have gotten more sponsors than anyone, thats why everyone at irwindale loves me, haha wow muct be my crappy people skills. lol oh yeah and my manners? yeah i have them i say please and thank you, and the occasional "bird" when needed. haha i am not going anywhere, pretty funny, i could swear i moved up and got the hell out of that place.... wow for not going anywhere i sure have done alot.... keep your comments to yourself, oh great mature, manners respectful one lol....

Title: Re: I thinK it's BS
Post by robbySAWYER on 10/07/06 at 12:01am

sorry i just couldnt get over the fact you said i dont have people skills hahahah sorry still laughing, have u ever heard me talk on a microphone or to a sponsor, hahaha i guess not, i could sell a fridge to an eskimoe at the north pole... those are good people skills

Title: Re: I thinK it's BS
Post by whoya on 10/07/06 at 2:28am


bakoracer8 wrote on 09/25/06 at 6:36pm:
The flyer is supposed to say Bakersfield Street Stock Rules apply with the following exceptions: Blah, Blah Blah. Nobody wanted them through the year but now it is ok? This is not an Open Comp race if it was we would let the cars that have been calling us from Nevada come with their J-Bars and Fully adjustable 4-links. How would you like that. Oh I forgot it would give you guys something else to come up to me and B*TCH about. Just round out your nose and come race not a big deal. RULE STANDS.

THANK YOU
MIKE THOMAS
HEAD TECH BAKERSFIELD SPEEDWAY


I was looking forward to an open show with cars from other states coming  too.

Title: Re: I thinK it's BS
Post by bakoracer8 on 10/07/06 at 5:22am

Robby I was told By Ivan himself why you were suspended, so I know the facts this is a guy that was my Best Man when I got married. Who are you some one who does not want to tell his dad the truth why you are in trouble. I have had nothing but respect for you and you dad in the past always given you a fair shake even if I did not agree with your attitude. GUESS WHAT NOT ANY MORE. You will think dumb ass. Change your attitude or don't come back. We really don't need you at Bakersfield Speedway.

MIke

Title: Re: I thinK it's BS
Post by oldman98 on 10/07/06 at 6:59am

mike...sometimes what is told to people is not what was said...as like when someone went to the officials and told them that robby was doing something...they went to scott if i remember right...it happened the night i was not there...it's funny that everyone believes them if it's about robby...it doesn't make any difference as long as it's about robby...it seems if it's true...at least thats the tracks feelings...there were people that night at the track that has told me that robby did nothing but someone goes up and says something and "POOOFFF", it the gods honest truth and you guys jump at the chance to beat him down...after a while, u just get tired of the BS that is thrown our way...just like the water bottle that was thrown...it came from the infield area cause i saw it coming across the track...but no, you guys jump at robby cause someone said he did it...like i said...you get tired off crap after a while and you guys love dishing it out...this place really hasn't changed much...it feels like doug and sandy all over again...which one of u is sandy...i think ivan would look better in a skirt...lol...

Title: Re: I thinK it's BS
Post by onebkrsfldgrl on 10/07/06 at 9:13am

and to think, you guys are wanting to come back ?

look at what you are saying here, both you and Robby need to look at your post's and think if the shoe were on the other foot, how would you feel about the things you two are saying.

and yes i do agree, THE APPLE DOESN'T FALL FAR FROM THE TREE !!!!!


Michele

Title: Re: I thinK it's BS
Post by GRAHAM_#10 on 10/07/06 at 9:36am

YOU PEOPLE ARE AMAZING, KEEP IT UP IT'S MAKING YOU ALL LOOK STUPID. JMO LOL

Title: Re: I thinK it's BS
Post by oldman98 on 10/07/06 at 1:42pm

michele...thank you...like father like son...

sure we want to come back...we like taking the money and putting it into the pavement car...whats so wrong about that...easy money...maybe the honesty thing should be the track...the shoe is on the other foot...were not upset at any driver...the truth will set you free...


Title: Re: I thinK it's BS
Post by oldman98 on 10/07/06 at 1:48pm

graham...#10...i don't need any help looking stupid...been that way most of my life...just speaking out on our behalf...

Title: Re: I thinK it's BS
Post by dario on 10/07/06 at 2:20pm

doyle you are right this is starting to look like the sms message board that (thankfully) got shut down.jmo

Title: Re: I thinK it's BS
Post by imracin68j on 10/07/06 at 3:46pm


oldman98 wrote on 10/07/06 at 1:48pm:
graham...#10...i don't need any help looking stupid...been that way most of my life...just speaking out on our behalf...


here here!  you guys need to learn how to make wrestling cards...

Title: Re: I thinK it's BS
Post by oldman98 on 10/07/06 at 10:39pm

billy...your the man...hook us up would u...

Title: Re: I thinK it's BS
Post by jrtracing on 10/08/06 at 2:04am

I just got back from Hanford, and after reading this thread I had to go back and find this pic.

Title: Re: I thinK it's BS
Post by FASTMIKE on 10/08/06 at 7:39am

you're operating without your conscious again Lee..........

remember your promise.........






peace...............mike

Title: Re: I thinK it's BS
Post by TIM_BEWLEY on 10/08/06 at 11:20am


jrtracing wrote on 10/08/06 at 2:04am:
I just got back from Hanford, and after reading this thread I had to go back and find this pic.


LOL!

Title: Re: I thinK it's BS
Post by whoya on 10/08/06 at 3:54pm

HEY!   No hijacking this thread with funny $hit

Title: Re: I thinK it's BS
Post by dirtboxhero on 10/09/06 at 3:36pm

yeah but that card is funny as hell

Title: Re: I thinK it's BS
Post by 81LOVELESS on 10/09/06 at 4:29pm

that card is well explained and funny to

Title: Re: I thinK it's BS
Post by oldman98 on 10/12/06 at 10:51am

hogracer3d...so have you changed your nose to be able to race this weekend at the nationals...

Title: Re: I thinK it's BS
Post by sj_valley_dave on 10/12/06 at 12:23pm

He said they are not running at Bakersfield this week. They are going to be at Fallon, Nev. running their "open Show"

Title: Re: I thinK it's BS
Post by hogracer3d on 10/12/06 at 8:51pm

Even though I have been accused of not patronising local business, I dropped another grand in Bako today, making stops at BC Ray, B & B,  Victory Circle, Terry Henry's, and the beer joint.

This is about the 3rd $1000.00 lap this year that I have made, and I can't even race there---Dave

Is that considered whining?

Title: Re: I thinK it's BS
Post by jrtracing on 10/12/06 at 9:45pm


hogracer3d wrote on 10/12/06 at 8:51pm:
and the beer joint.


Before or after I seen you? I would of had a drink with you. I'd have offered one at Race Prep, but I know you really don't like beer much.

Title: Re: I thinK it's BS
Post by hogracer3d on 10/12/06 at 9:59pm

I actually like beer best, but now that the wife has me on the the Atkins deal beer is few and far between

Title: Re: I thinK it's BS
Post by imracin68j on 10/12/06 at 10:03pm

generally lee only offers beers after a takeout move so offering one at the shop before any kind of takeout move has happened is a compliment.

Title: Re: I thinK it's BS
Post by hogracer3d on 10/12/06 at 10:19pm

Thank You!!!!

We'll see yaz at Chow, Pahrump and ElCentro

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