Post by Frazier15 on 11/24/08 at 4:47pm
The new Robert "The Redneck" Reed Factory Stock LTD and crew members-------------
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http://www.latemodelracer.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl Saturday Night Racer >> SATURDAY NIGHT RACER >> SMS Factory Stocks http://www.latemodelracer.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1227324481 Message started by John Hanson Racing #44 on 11/21/08 at 7:28pm |
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Title: SMS Factory Stocks Post by John Hanson Racing #44 on 11/21/08 at 7:28pm I wanted to see who is racing a full season next year,who is racing partial season,and see if there is any new factory stock drivers. I am really looking forward to bringing the title back to arroyo grande,my plan is secretly sneaking Kirk Morgan in my car before each race.Oh wait I just gave away my secret.I guess I'll just have to Get 'er done myself then. |
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Title: Re: SMS Factory Stocks Post by rickybobby33x on 11/22/08 at 6:46am I think someone from A/G tried that last year..............Cant remember his name. ;D Anyways NEW GUY.............................bring it..................pete |
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Title: Re: SMS Factory Stocks Post by GRAHAM-10 on 11/22/08 at 7:36am I MIGHT GIVE IT A SHOT |
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Title: Re: SMS Factory Stocks Post by rickybobby33x on 11/22/08 at 3:14pm Hope u and your bro give it a shot.............Bako was a blast..............see u guys out there.......... 8-)pete |
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Title: Re: SMS Factory Stocks Post by gl_rayburn98 on 11/23/08 at 11:00am I have heard a rumor that a 5th FRC chassis will be out there next year. It will be very competitive. I think the guy getting one always paints his car a crappy white all the time and always wins car beautiful. I don't know, just a rumor. Anyway John, you are lucky because you got into a class with some of the funnest guys you will ever race with. Even Pete! Don't judge him by his looks, that’s why he wears a full face helmet. |
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Title: Re: SMS Factory Stocks Post by rickybobby33x on 11/23/08 at 12:01pm The full face helmet is for when you speak.you spit...........yahoo. ;D Wheres my chevelle, nothing but pure bogart on your part................. :( LOL. |
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Title: Re: SMS Factory Stocks Post by gl_rayburn98 on 11/23/08 at 1:01pm Aaaa, left you a message bonehead...it's ready to be picked up...I already tried delivery once. It is sitting at our shop in Grover. Better hurry, those tie rods look good lol.... |
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Title: Re: SMS Factory Stocks Post by smithracing25 on 11/23/08 at 1:41pm i got a car and will be runing a full season next year. i caint wait. i will be runing a 70 chevelle i just got the motor and drive train for it so i will be out there for a full season. see u guys on the track. |
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Title: Re: SMS Factory Stocks Post by gl_rayburn98 on 11/23/08 at 9:59pm Good deal....the more guys the better.....I hear that the fastest cars will be the Ford Ltds ....you new guys should jump on them before they all get snatched up. I think Doyle and a couple other guys already got one. |
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Title: Re: SMS Factory Stocks Post by Crashburn T. Throttlebottom on 11/24/08 at 7:12am smithracing25 wrote on 11/23/08 at 1:41pm:
OMG!! Another Spin Doctor. If you couldn't keep a Mini on the track, what makes you think a factory will be better?? LOL!!! |
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Title: Re: SMS Factory Stocks Post by gl_rayburn98 on 11/24/08 at 9:34am Nice, hope everyone has a sense of humor cause it is going to get rough! It sounds like a good idea to come up with nicknames....i'll have to think of some for the factory boys.....I don't know maybe something like Robert "lookin for the lead" Reed. |
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Title: Re: SMS Factory Stocks Post by GRAHAM-10 on 11/24/08 at 10:04am gl_rayburn98 wrote on 11/24/08 at 9:34am:
or how about "Robert doesn't look past his hood Reed". lol |
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Title: Re: SMS Factory Stocks Post by John Hanson Racing #44 on 11/24/08 at 2:17pm Gary Rayburn is right on the money with the LTD as a great race car,but I would also recommend another car as well a "1979 Lincoln Continental Town Car",Those are great cars as well for dirt racing.Rayburn and I drive camaros to give everybody else an advantage.Camaros are bad handling cars but Lincolns and Ford LTD's are the best. |
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Title: Re: SMS Factory Stocks Post by RCR489 on 11/24/08 at 4:10pm YOU ALSO CAN RUN THE LTDS BECAUSE IT SHOULD HAVE THE FORD 9"? |
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Title: Re: SMS Factory Stocks Post by Frazier15 on 11/24/08 at 4:47pm The new Robert "The Redneck" Reed Factory Stock LTD and crew members------------- |
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Title: Re: SMS Factory Stocks Post by Linson-34 on 11/24/08 at 7:45pm rickybobby33x wrote on 11/22/08 at 6:46am:
Stop cryin PETER..... Hows that wall bangin chevelle anyway?got her done? ;D By the way....the title is comin back to A.G this year! I got somethin for ya! |
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Title: Re: SMS Factory Stocks Post by rickybobby33x on 11/25/08 at 7:10am YOU CANT EVEN SPELL TITLE..........................Chevelle is in two pieces, thanks to turn 4 at Bako. :o Will get her done with time to spare this year. (i hope).Looks like a good car count in 09.......................BRING IT..... 8-)....PETE |
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Title: Re: SMS Factory Stocks Post by gl_rayburn98 on 11/25/08 at 3:05pm Good to see you back online linson, but you have to quit moonlighting in other classes if you want to win in Factory Stocks. Pete is going to be hard to beat now that he got new medication. The Estrogen was making him grow boobs. They kept hitting the steering wheel....ala turn 4 in bakersfield. He said his high heels kept getting caught in the pedals also. No @its i the pits Pete! so leave! |
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Title: Re: SMS Factory Stocks Post by rickybobby33x on 11/25/08 at 5:05pm AT least some of can get some tit................... :)U will have to settle for driving with one hand again :'(..YAHOO.......luvinu.pete |
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Title: Re: SMS Factory Stocks Post by John Hanson Racing #44 on 11/25/08 at 8:58pm This is John Hanson your announcer for the evening,Welcome to the UIC(Ultimate Insult Challenge)We have been having an amazing battle between the former champion Gary Rayburn Jr. and the onnnnee the onlyyyyyyy Rickyyyyy Bobbbbyyyy. We have observed two warriors here in the Latemodel racer octagon, and who will be the UIC Champion of the world.We have scheduled three more rounds between Gary Rayburn JR, who is reprezenntinnnn Grover, and Ricky Bobby who is reprezennnntinnnnn Santa Maria. Everybody submit your vote via latemodel racer after each round.The Final three rounds are going to be an amazing duel between to amazing competitors. Thank you for tuning in and have a great evening! |
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Title: Re: SMS Factory Stocks Post by RCR489 on 11/26/08 at 8:48am DING DING. LETS GET IT ON. |
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Title: Re: SMS Factory Stocks Post by gl_rayburn98 on 11/26/08 at 10:00am So, I saw Rickybobby last night. He kept complaining how poor he was. I kept seeing him kick around this can. I said," hey Pete, what are you doing?" he said, " Moving". LOL Anyway, I says to him, " you know Pete your such a redneck. I bet when you do the family portraits you pile everyone in the back of your truck and then go run the stop light and tell everyone to smile. Six weeks later you get your portrait from the city police!" By the way, friday is the biggest shopping day of the year....make sure you stock up on the lipstick! |
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Title: Re: SMS Factory Stocks Post by RCR489 on 11/26/08 at 10:05am OK RICKY BOBBY.YOUR TURN. |
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Title: Re: SMS Factory Stocks Post by gl_rayburn98 on 11/26/08 at 10:13am He is looking the big words up in the dictionary right now! G-Ray |
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Title: Re: SMS Factory Stocks Post by rickybobby33x on 11/26/08 at 6:45pm HERES A BIG WORD F-O.........................happy thanksgiving EVERYONE .................... :)..even u small one. :'(.....pete |
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Title: Re: SMS Factory Stocks Post by woodracing35 on 11/26/08 at 8:13pm is your class going to allow the holley carbs instead of the stock ones? |
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Title: Re: SMS Factory Stocks Post by rickybobby33x on 11/26/08 at 10:10pm I think we are going to be running the quad....................... seems to be working in this class. JMO.............PETE |
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Title: Re: SMS Factory Stocks Post by RCR489 on 11/27/08 at 5:07pm ROUND ONE WINNER IS---------- GARY. |
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Title: Re: SMS Factory Stocks Post by GRAHAMS RACING #11 on 11/27/08 at 8:05pm NOW NOW KIDS SAVE IT FOR THE DIRT LOL |
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Title: Re: SMS Factory Stocks Post by gl_rayburn98 on 11/27/08 at 9:57pm We will be running quads again. Holley carbs are not allowed. Sorry. |
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Title: Re: SMS Factory Stocks Post by RCR489 on 11/28/08 at 9:21am gl_rayburn98 wrote on 11/27/08 at 9:57pm:
I HEARD FLOATERS ARE OK. |
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Title: Re: SMS Factory Stocks Post by 32MORGAN on 11/28/08 at 1:31pm no robert, floaters are on legal optional item list. |
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Title: Re: SMS Factory Stocks Post by clay_oval on 11/29/08 at 9:46pm John Hanson Racing #44 wrote on 11/24/08 at 2:17pm:
A '79 Chrysler Cordoba would be a great choice also! That Corrrrinthian leather makes them handle real nice. And the T-tops make them really aerodynamic! Too bad you can't leave the 8-track in. Seriously, Camaro's? They only look like they win....it's all done with smoke and mirrors. LOL |
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Title: Re: SMS Factory Stocks Post by John Hanson Racing #44 on 12/01/08 at 9:02pm I think that we should have at least one race with qualifying laps next year and a 50 lap race.Who do we talk to and what is the best way to accomplish that.Any ideas?Thanks John |
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Title: Re: SMS Factory Stocks Post by Ryan D. on 12/01/08 at 10:06pm John Hanson Racing #44 wrote on 12/01/08 at 9:02pm:
Hell go for the gusto.Back in the old days,Us factory stock boys had a deal called the 3 33's. Qualifying with 3 33 lap races 300.00 to win each segment total inversion,each round. You break your out. Fun times lots of cars.Man I miss the old days :( :( :( |
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Title: Re: SMS Factory Stocks Post by Linson-34 on 12/02/08 at 12:16pm Those were good races! I had alot of fun. Lots of hard racing and seat time. I wish those would come back. [smiley=vrolijk_26.gif] |
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Title: Re: SMS Factory Stocks Post by Ryan D. on 12/03/08 at 8:45pm Anyone one in SM got a car I can come look at. I raced one 6-7 years ago. I kinda got the bug again and wanted to see how much theve evolved.If there still as cheap as I remember, or they High dollar now. |
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Title: Re: SMS Factory Stocks Post by RedNeck Motorsports8 on 12/04/08 at 6:03am hey ryan its easyer if you just buy a car if your going to try to get back in it |
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Title: Re: SMS Factory Stocks Post by rickybobby33x on 12/04/08 at 7:03am What class.........................? |
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Title: Re: SMS Factory Stocks Post by Frazier15 on 12/04/08 at 7:55am Ryan D. wrote on 12/03/08 at 8:45pm:
Check your pm-- |
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Title: Re: SMS Factory Stocks Post by Ryan D. on 12/04/08 at 7:35pm K.C wrote on 12/04/08 at 6:03am:
I acutally got a friend of mine that has a couple of cars siiting around old hobby cars that her son was planning on turning into street stocks. His plan ever worked out he moved out of state. She wants to sell everything so Im go check it out. I just want to buy a bunch of crap I cant use, or resell. Old factory Stock pic from 2001  And Mike I got your message Thanks. |
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Title: Re: SMS Factory Stocks Post by rickybobby33x on 12/05/08 at 7:13am That looks like the flying mopar of sparks................ ;D give em hell 73........................pete |
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Title: Re: SMS Factory Stocks Post by Linson-34 on 12/07/08 at 10:16am who drove that 22 car? looks like he had fun! |
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Title: Re: SMS Factory Stocks Post by 32MORGAN on 12/07/08 at 11:38am if i remember right it was one of the HERLIHY brother, i'm sure i spelled that wrong. |
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Title: Re: SMS Factory Stocks Post by 1 Proud DAD on 12/07/08 at 12:05pm 32MORGAN wrote on 11/28/08 at 1:31pm:
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Title: Re: SMS Factory Stocks Post by John Hanson Racing #44 on 01/05/09 at 9:40pm Just wanted to see how the factory stock driver's cars are coming along and predictions on who's gonna hit the wall first,who's gonna break an axle first,who's gonna spin out first(not me ;D)who's gonna bring the Factory Stock title back to which city? |
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Title: Re: SMS Factory Stocks Post by heyyou#27 on 01/06/09 at 8:44am we got one less rookie yahoo now, kenny smith bailed on weigel's chevelle, but heard at party we get the infamous "banned 4 life" ministocker...... |
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Title: Re: SMS Factory Stocks Post by GRAHAM-10 on 01/06/09 at 6:36pm FIRST TO HIT THE WALL .......SPARKS FIRST TO LOSE AN AXLE.......SCOVELL FIRST TO SPIN......REED AND AS FOR THE CHAMPIONSHIP IT WILL COME BACK TO A.G. |
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Title: Re: SMS Factory Stocks Post by 32MORGAN on 01/06/09 at 7:50pm GRAHAM-10 wrote on 01/06/09 at 6:36pm:
i agree with doyle on everything except, frazier is going to keep the championship in sm |
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Title: Re: SMS Factory Stocks Post by brickeyracing45 on 01/06/09 at 11:25pm Ryan D. wrote on 12/04/08 at 7:35pm:
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Title: Re: SMS Factory Stocks Post by John Hanson Racing #44 on 01/07/09 at 11:17pm This is the official sms super duper factory stock check in- Please give your name years racing- most memorable factory stock racing moment your favorite pick for 09 factory stock champion your favorite pick for most improved factory stock racer in 09 your pick for who should go back to mini stocks ;D |
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Title: Re: SMS Factory Stocks Post by rickybobby33x on 01/08/09 at 7:34am JOHN.........................You sound like Barney, you have too much time on your hands ;DGo fix your hoopty...........................pete |
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Title: Re: SMS Factory Stocks Post by sundown on 01/09/09 at 10:29am K-9 in 09. Hey, that rhymes. I ran my first dirt oval in 1969. I had to have my parents sign a release form. The car was a 1956 Ford with a 292 cubic inch V-8. Then, I drag raced thru the 70's, and I got into mud racing in a 76 Blazer. I flipped the Blazer over for eight rolls on The Wide World of Sports TV show. I was just trying to be their "Agony of Defeat clip. I enjoy racing at Santa Maria and warn you that I will be way in the gray part of the rules this year. So thus.......K-9 in 09. |
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Title: Re: SMS Factory Stocks Post by Mopar73Car on 01/09/09 at 6:59pm GRAHAM-10 wrote on 01/06/09 at 6:36pm:
FIRST TO NOT EVEN SHOWUP FOR 09'---GRAHAM [smiley=tongue.gif] FIRST TO SAY HE'S NOT GOING TO RUN A FULL SEASON----MORGAN [smiley=tongue.gif] FIRST TO NEED SPONSER DOLLARS OR WILL NOT BE ABLE TO RUN 09' EITHER---SPARKS :question Mopar73Car Glen Sparks |
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Title: Re: SMS Factory Stocks Post by rickybobby33x on 01/09/09 at 8:16pm Well Glen, that will save the speedway on paint on the walls LOL........................ ;D...........Get out there and work the people,works for me.Hope the 10 car and his bro will be there also.Hope people dont drop like flies, times are a little rougher now a days................... :(................Like to see a good field, good luck to all........pete |
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Title: Re: SMS Factory Stocks Post by John Hanson Racing #44 on 01/11/09 at 3:29pm I am really excited about this coming season.It will be a great season.How is everyone's car coming along?My Dad and I have been putting on some new panels on the race car.Big thanks to Gary Rayburn Sr. for them. Looking forward to racing with all the factory stock guys next year. |
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Title: Re: SMS Factory Stocks Post by DutchRacing55 on 01/11/09 at 4:54pm Glen - Count me in for free pit help and mud scraping all season long! That goes for all! Can't help much $ wise but extra hands help as well. -Matt |
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Title: Re: SMS Factory Stocks Post by MiniHeyU27 on 01/17/09 at 3:31pm gl_rayburn98 wrote on 11/23/08 at 9:59pm:
Jim Ford's new car http://hotlink.myspacecdn.com/images02/19/70fd586fe3ea4a80bc32d047785ae0bb/m.jpg |
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Title: Re: SMS Factory Stocks Post by Joe_Odom212 on 01/17/09 at 6:45pm heard that the 94 car might be back with mark doss as driver |
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Title: Re: SMS Factory Stocks Post by 32MORGAN on 01/18/09 at 5:02pm it would be great to see the 94 run agian, it's a very fast car. |
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Title: Re: SMS Factory Stocks Post by bouncermike on 01/18/09 at 5:28pm i wanted to buy the 94 car but i heard rumors about it not being legal??? |
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Title: Re: SMS Factory Stocks Post by John Hanson Racing #44 on 01/18/09 at 5:54pm rickybobby33x wrote on 01/08/09 at 7:34am:
Hi Ricky Bobby!Thanks for your inspiration,since your comment I have been working on my car like a mad man. |
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Title: Re: SMS Factory Stocks Post by rickybobby33x on 01/18/09 at 9:08pm Like all of us, you need to the lead out off your a@@ and in the car..................LOL. ;D Thanks again for the gift from you and your family, hope everyone had a good time on jan. 1............Hows that little racer doing?.talk at you soon ..Ricky |
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Title: Re: SMS Factory Stocks Post by tate on 01/18/09 at 9:41pm any word on bako hobbys beoin able to run there |
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Title: Re: SMS Factory Stocks Post by Mopar73Car on 01/19/09 at 1:47pm Tate.... Dont hold your breath on SMS allowing Bako hobbys to run here without major changes to there cars. This is not the first time, over the past few years, and around this time of year that the exact question has come up. Not enough guys here in the SMS Factory Stock....(excuse me Super Factory Stock) divison willing to step up and talk to SMS management to allow it. Mopar73Car Glen Sparks |
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Title: Re: SMS Factory Stocks Post by 32MORGAN on 01/19/09 at 6:25pm GET OFF YOUR MOPAR ASS AND CALL THE SPEEDWAY, I'VE TALKED WITH DAVE TWICE ABOUT IT, AND IT LOOKED REALLY GOOD BUT I HAVEN'T HEARD ANYTHING FROM IVAN OR THE SPEEDWAY FOR A FEW WEEKS. |
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Title: Re: SMS Factory Stocks Post by heyyou#27 on 01/19/09 at 7:00pm MiniHeyU27 wrote on 01/17/09 at 3:31pm:
DAMM sombody shud a told me I need a 10 ft longer trailer to run a LTD......... :D |
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Title: Re: SMS Factory Stocks Post by Mopar73Car on 01/19/09 at 9:07pm 32MORGAN wrote on 01/19/09 at 6:25pm:
GET OFF MY MOPAR ASS???? [smiley=shocked.gif] DID THAT A LONG TIME AGO (END OF 07 SEASON) WITH A CLASS RULES PACKAGE THAT WOULD HAVE GOTTEN BOTH BAKERSFIELD HOBBYS AND SMS FACTORY'S TO BE ABLE TO COMPETE HERE AT SMS (YOU, AND QUITE A FEW OTHER COMPETITORS HAD A HAND IN THAT RULES PACKAGE NOT JUST ME). BUT IT WAS SHOT DOWN.......I DID MY PART. HERE IT IS: Proposed 2008 SMS Hobby Stock Rules November 25th 2007 Draft 7 DEFINITION OF "STOCK" OR "OEM"In the following rules stock, stock OEM or OEM will mean that a part or dimension must be from a standard production vehicle. "OEM" is the abbreviation for Original Equipment Manufacturer. SAFETY EQUIPMENT: 1. Rules apply at all times car is on track. Snell-rated SA2000 or SA2005 helmet required. 2. SFI-approved full fire suit required. 3. Fire retardant neck brace, gloves and shoes required. 4. Recommended but not required: Fire retardant head sock and underwear; head and neck restraints, roll bar padding optional in driver compartment 5. Minimum three inch wide five point safety belt assembly required 5a. Must be mounted securely to roll cage 6. Driver-side window net required, minimum 16" x 20" ribbon or mesh style No zip ties or pop riveting. Hard mount only. COMPETING MODELS: 1. 1964 or later American Manufactured. 2. Stock production sedan with steel top. Two or four door sedans OK 3. Pick-up, El Camino or Ford Ranchero OK must meet all rules. 4. Minimum wheel base 105 inches. 5. Minimum weight, with driver, anytime, 3,400 lbs. 6. No four wheel drive, No front wheel drive. ROLL CAGE & CHASSIS CONSTRUCTION: 1. A full perimeter roll cage is required. No offset cage allowed. 2. There must be a minimum of four (4) driver side bars in the left door area. 3. Two (2) bars must extend from the top of roll cage to the rear of the frame rails. 4. One (1) bar must extend from the left side to right side of rear roll cage at floor pan level for seat belt attachment. 5. One (1) diagonal bar is required across the rear of roll cage from top to bottom. 6. One (1) bar must be installed from left side of roll bar to center part of cross bar at shoulder level for shoulder harness attachment. 7. Where roll bars are attached to the floor pan, must have steel mounting plates under and over floor pan. 7a.OR 3/4" .095 Minimum steel tubing welded to inner frame rails inside car as cage mounting base. 8. All main cage roll bar material must be a minimum of 1 3/4" .090" wall steel tubing 9. Optional cage mounting plates must be a minimum of 4" x 6" x .125 steel. 10. Radiator protection bar and supports may be added. and consealed behind nose piece. 11. Left front kick pannel protection bars required (driver foot area) 12. No galvanized pipe. No thread pipe fittings allowed. 13. All roll cage welds must have a minimum 2" x .125" steel gussets. 14. Maximum, pipe diameter 2" 15. Additional roll bars with optional wall thickness and outside diameters may be added. 16. NOTE: To the entery level driver, owner, or race car builder, it is recommended, that purchasing a roll cage kit and following the assembly instructions carefully will be the most cost effective choice. All roll cage construction subject to technical inspection and approval BODIES: 1. Fenders, doors and rear quarter panels may be interchanged with similar models as long as end result looks stock and does not effect the size or weight of vehicle. 2. No external reinforcing bars. 3. Front inner wheel wells may be removed 4. Fabricated body pannels OK 4a. Any fabricated body part must be 22-gauge steel and appear stock 5. No fiberglass, No plastic or aluminum fenders, trunk lids or quarter panels 6. Aluminum hood OK 7. The dash and rear package tray may be replaced with sheet metal 8. No cutting away of interior and exterior sheet metal except as outlined: 8a. All interior sheet metal with the exception of the front fire wall may be removed. 8a1. Front fire wall must remain in stock location and completely sealed 8a2. No enclosed driver compartment, No "coffin". 8a3. Both front inner kick pannels may be removed. 8b. Body sheet metal may be trimmed for tire clearance a maximum of 5" above tire on both sides of car 8c. Rear trunk floor and outer portion of rear inner fender panels may be removed. 9. All glass and chrome trim must be removed. 10. The hood must be complete with no cutouts for the air cleaner. 11. Air cleaner must remain completely under hood. 12. Hood and deck lid must have quick pull positive hold pins. 13. Engine to driver's compartment must be completely sealed. 14. Driver to trunk area must be completely sealed. 15. Plastic nose pieces upper and lower OK 16. No rear spoilers allowed. 17. Complete stock floor pan mandatory. From front firewall to rear axle, frame rail to frame rail. 18. Stock firewall, stock location, master cylinder stock location. 19. No glass windshields allowed. 20. The complete windshield area must be covered with wire mesh with minimum ¼" openings OR Minimum three windshield bars in front of driver. 21. Number must be on both sides of car located on door. 22. Must also have number located on roof and on front of car located in approximate headlight area and taillight area. 23. Minimum number size is 18". Number lines must be a minimum of 4" and in contrasting color to the body of car. 24. No mirrors of any kind allowed. 25. Appearance of car must be kept up to track standards. 26. Must provide lifting points or eyelets front and rear to facilitate wrecker hook up DRIVER COMPARTMENT: 1. Aluminum high-back seat only and must be bolted into the roll cage construction NOT the floor pan, using minimum 3/8-inch bolts. 2. Driver seat may be no further back than rear edge of B-pillar. 3. Dash must be flat, rear can be no higher than front, except for cowl in front of driver 4. Collapsible steering shaft only 5. Fire extinguisher minimum 2 lbs. dry-chemical must be mounted in driver's compartment. Must be accessible to the driver. 6. Steering ratio reducers allowed. 7. Quick release steering wheel OK ENGINE COMPARTMENT: 1. Engine must be in OEM location. 2. GM and Ford metric frames must have back of fuel pump in front of cross member. 3. Frame and cross member may not be altered for engine placement. 4. Engine mount holes cannot be removed or altered on engine block. 5. No mid-plate allowed. 6. Relocation from stock, of left upper control arm mounting point ok on GM chassis. For increased positive camber ELECTRICAL / IGNITION SYSTEM: 1. Any 12 Volt or 16 volt Battery (one only) must be moved from under hood to inside of vehicle or in trunk. 2. Battery must be enclosed in a metal box securely fastend to chassis 3. Kill switch must be labeled ON/OFF and easily reached by driver or fire safety crew 4. Gear reduction starters OK 5. Alternator not requierd 6. No two way radios allowed. 7. No After market racing application ignition systems allowed. 8. No traction controll systems allowed ENGINES: 1. NO BIG BLOCKS! Maximum engine displacement: GM - 350c.i. - Chrysler - 360c.i. - Ford - 351c.i. 2. Blocks must not be altered in any way so that it could not be used in a street legal production car, OEM block only. 3. Aftermarket steel engine mounts allowed 4. Maximum allowable overbore for cleanup - .060 (4.060) 5. After market oil pan with side kick out OK 6. Oil pre-lube system OK 7. Wet sump only CAMSHAFT: 1. 4 Barrel carbureted cars subject to a vacuum test of 14hg of manifold vacuume for (1) minute at 900 RPM for the purpose of teching for low / mild performance cam. Must provide an easy access vacuum port on the intake manifold for the purpose of checking vacuum. 2. Optional .465 valve lift (max.) intake and exhaust camshaft, can only be used with the Edelbrock Torquer 2 intake manifold and one Holley 4412 carburetor 3. No roller lifter application camshafts. 4. Cranking compression, hot off the track, 185 anytime. 5. No gear drives allowed. CRANKS: 1. Stock OEM steel or cast iron stock stroke; CHEVY 3.480, FORD 3.500, CHRYSLER 3.580 stroke crank OR Scat series 9000 stock replacement OK 1a. No knife edging, No lighting, No offset grinding, No stroking, No destroking, No any other after market cranks of any kind. No lightweight cranks allowed Crank is to remain stock and will be teched. 2. Must have One inch inspection hole in oil pan for visual verification of crankshaft. PISTONS: 1. Stock OEM piston allowed OR cast or forged 2-valve OR 4-valve relief flat top piston allowed. 2. No lightening of any kind. No domed pistons allowed. Pistons are no touch. 3. Floating wrist pin OK CONNECTING RODS: 1. Stock OEM connecting rod allowed. 1a. No H-beam rods allowed. No aluminum connecting rods, No lighting of any kind. No grinding or polishing beams. No after market hi-performance connecting rods allowed. 2. After market hi-performance connecting rod bolts OK. 3. Shot peened OK. HEADS: 1. 2.02 intake (max.) 1.6 exhaust (max.) valves allowed. 1a. No Vortex heads, No fuel injection application heads, No aluminum heads allowed, No port matching No after market heads allowed, No pocket porting or blending, No acid etching. No angle milling. 2. Stock appearing stamped steel rockers only. any ratio 2a. No alloy, roller tip or chrome-molly rockers allowed. No roller rockers. 2b. OEM Stock shaft mount rockers only for Chrysler and Ford 3. Screw in studs OK, Guide plates OK. Large valve springs, any spring rate OK. EXHAUST SYSTEM: 1. OEM cast iron exhaust manifolds. 2 1/4" exit max 2. Brezinski exhaust manifolds ok 2 1/4" exit max 3. Center dump "Ram Horns" type manifolds OK. 4. Exhaust must extend past firewall and turn towards ground. 5. Maximum 2-1/2" O.D. exhaust pipes. 6. Dual exhaust, crossover or 'Y' pipes OK. 7. Maximum dB reading 95 decibels at 100 feet. 8. Mufflers and tail pipes must be mounted below or underneath stock floor pan. 9. No part of the exhaust system is allowed inside the driver's compartment. FUEL SYSTEM: 1. Mechanical OEM type push rod fuel pumps only. 2. One unaltered OEM Four barrel or untouched Holley 4412 Two barrel carburetor 3. May remove carburetor choke plate. 4. No carburetor spacers. 5. One .25 inch (maximum) thickness gasket only. 6. Top flow air cleaner housings OK 7. No cold air boxes or air cleaner duct work. 8. Fuel cell required, must be in minimum 22 gauge steel container. 9. Fuel Cell must be securely fastened in trunk with minimum two solid steel straps around entire cell. 10. Metal firewall must be between driver and fuel cell. 11. All cell mounts must be steel, securely welded to frame/cage. 12. Fuel cell vents, including cap vent, must have check valves. 13. Fuel lines through driver compartment must run through metal pipe or metal conduit. 14. No fuel filters in driver compartment. One fuel filter only. No cool cans. 15. Roll over check valve on fuel cell vents required 16. Any OEM stock untouched Intake manifold, Cast iron or OEM Aluminum, can be used. 16a. Untouched Edelbrock Torquer 2 intake manifold may be used only with Untouched Holley 4412 and .465 max valve lift camshaft. 17. Fuel cell cap must have a small safety chain connected to the car. COOLING SYSTEM: 1. Minimum two-core radiator 2. Aluminum radiator OK 3. Must be mounted in front of engine. 4. Must have an overflow container. 5. Serpentine belt pullys OK 6. Underdrive pullys OK 7. Aluminum water pump OK 8. Electric radiator fans OK TIRES AND WHEELS: 1. Any D.O.T. street legal tire: Sizes 215/70R/15, 225/70R/15 or 235/70R/15 OR their equivalent in 75 series, only. 8" tread width max. 2. Maximum wheel rim width is 7". Steel wheels only 3. No mag or aluminum wheels allowed. 4. Aftermarket steel wheels with bead lock are allowed. 4a. Wheel studs may be replaced with larger studs up to 5/8 inch diameter. 5. Any OEM wheels utilized on the right side of car must be reinforced. 6. Minimum tire pressure 28 psi. at all times on right side tires. 7. All tires will be checked thoroughly for over aggressive tread patterns. 8. 15" tire and wheel only. 10. Wheel spacers OK 11. 2, 3, 4 inch offset wheels OK 12. No racing application tires. No snow tires, No siping, No groving, tires CONTINUED...... |
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Title: Re: SMS Factory Stocks Post by Mopar73Car on 01/19/09 at 9:08pm FRAME AND SUSPENSION: 1. Frame must be stock only. 1a. Front and rear sub frames must be stock for year, make and model of car utilized. 1b. No cutting, sectioning or redesign of any frame or sub frame to change the stock location of any suspension component or engine placement unless noted. 2. No reinforcing or modifying allowed for frames / sub-frames GM cars only 2a. Some reinforcing allowed for Ford Mustang, T- Bird, Mercury Cougar and Chrysler A, B, E, and J- body frames only at the discretion and approval of the Tech Inspector. 2b. Some reinforcing allowed of rear GM uni-body frames only at the discretion and approval of the Tech Inspector. 3. Wheel base – Minimum allowable 105 inches. Wheelbase must match measurable wheelbase for car utilized +/- 1 inch. 4. All components and parts must be stock. 4a. No weight jack devices of any kind allowed. No spring buckets, fixed or adjustable allowed. 5. Fixed spring buckets allowed on rear of coil cars only. 6. Adjustable rear spring hangers allowed. 8" in length max. No sliders 7. Fixed lowering blocks allowed. 8. Front or Rear sway bars must be stock. Sway bar links can be reinforced 9. Any crash damage repair must locate the suspension components in their original positions with a minimum of reinforcement. All repairs subject to Tech inspection and approval. 10. Stock "A" arms OK. Aftermarket "A" arms allowed. "A" arms may not be lengthened, shortened or modified in any way. Ball joint and ball joint location must be stock. 10a. Some reinforcing allowed for Ford Mustang, T- Bird, Mercury Cougar and Chrysler A, B, E, and J- body lower "A" arms only at the discretion and approval of the Tech Inspector. 11. No after market racing application front spindles or brake rotors allowed. 12. No modifications to spindles or rotors allowed. 13. All shocks recomended be racing application type non-adjustable and must be mounted in stock location to stock mounts. No coil over, No coil boosted, No air shocks, No reservoir adjustable shocks 14. Shock extender bolt on left rear only, OK for Camaro chassis 15. Racing application springs allowed 16. Bumpers can be stock OEM. Aluminum bumpers OK. 17. Front and rear bumpers must be mounted at approximately stock height and location. 18. Front and rear bumpers must have metal plates covering full width of bumper securing ends of bumpers to the quarter panels. 19. Front and rear bumpers must have safety chains mounted to the frames. 20. Square tubing bumpers OK 21. All ballast weight must be mounted with a minimum of two (2) 1/2" or 5/8" grade 8 bolts OR two (2) weight mounts, painted white and have car number on each weight. TRANSMISSION: 1. Automatic transmissions only 2. Powerglide transmission for GM cars only, OK 3. Must be unaltered OEM 4. Unaltered OEM front pump assembly, original bellhousing 5. Minimum 10 inch diameter, fully operational, torque converter containing a minimum of three quarts of fluid 6. Torque converter must have a drain plug. And is to be drained only in the presence of the Tech Official. To verify torque converter is operational. When required. 7. All forward gears and reverse gear must function. 8. NO direct drive couplers allowed 9. NO "Dummy" tourque converters allowed REAR AXLE: 1. Stock GM or Ford 9"or Chrysler 8 3/4" rear ends allowed. 2. Floating axles OK 3. Gear ratio optional 4. No aluminum housings, No aluminum spools, No Detroit lockers, No Gold Tracks, No traction control devices of any kind. No lightened ring gears 5. Locked rear ends allowed. 6. Drivelines must have two (2) retaining straps, one (1) near the front and one (1) near the back. May be made of chain or metal strap. 7. Drivelines must be painted white. 7a. No aluminum drivelines. 8. Must have 1" inspection hole in rearend housing 9. GM 10 Bolt must have aftermarket racing application axle in the right rear no exceptions BRAKE SYSTEM: 1. Complete OEM 4 wheel brakes in good working order required. 2. No turning brakes of any kind allowed. 3. All 4 wheel brakes must work at all times. 4. No dual racing type master cylinders or balance bars allowed. 5. Unaltered OEM working master cylinders must be mounted in OEM location. 6. No adjustable proportioning valves. 7. OEM rear disc brakes OK 8. Aftermarket racing application disc brakes allowed on rear only POST RACE INSPECTION / TEARDOWNS: ANY DRIVER REFUSING TO ALLOW POST RACE INSPECTION OR TEARDOWN WILL LOSE ALL POINTS FOR THE NIGHT AND ALL PREVIOUS RACE NIGHTS. PROTESTS: 1. A protest in writing, by any owner or driver, on an approved Santa Maria Speedway protest form, along with $200.00 cash, may be filed with the Chief Steward within fifteen (15) minutes following the finish of the event. 2. Protests will be settled by the "Protest Committee". 3. If the protest is upheld, the $200.00 fee will be refunded. 4. If the protest is denied, the $200.00 will go to the SMS Driver's Benevolent Fund. 5. In the event an engine tear-down is required, the only persons allowed at the tear-down will be the SMS Tech Inspectors and the car owner. 6. Frivolous protests will be denied. 6a. No protest will be accepted that is directed at a decision of an official, including but not limited to timing and scoring decisions, inspections and race procedure decisions. 6b. Discussion as to official rulings, race procedures, etc. will be conducted with the driver only. I KNOW THAT SOME CHANGES HAVE BEEN MADE TO CURRENT SMS RULES AND BAKERSFIELD RULES SINCE THIS SET OF RULES WAS SUBMITED. SOME COMPETEITORS SAID THERE IS TO MUCH "GRAY AREA" IN OUR CURRENT RULES IS THIS SET SPECIFIC ENOUGH?? OR NO?? |
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Title: Re: SMS Factory Stocks Post by rickybobby33x on 01/19/09 at 9:41pm Lets hope OKINITE gets busy again...........You have to much time on your hands.....LOL.......................If I recall. last year we got a new vac. rule and quick steers, Baby steps................What should we do for this year?.................jUST THINKING.............Pete... :) |
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Title: Re: SMS Factory Stocks Post by Mopar73Car on 01/19/09 at 9:50pm rickybobby33x wrote on 01/19/09 at 9:41pm:
Come on Pete, you asked the question,"what should we do for this year" You come up with something Mopar73Car Glen Sparks |
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Title: Re: SMS Factory Stocks Post by tate on 01/19/09 at 10:03pm if the rearend rule was changed i would have no problem changin the other things to go play but the rear end in the biggest thing for me |
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Title: Re: SMS Factory Stocks Post by Mopar73Car on 01/19/09 at 10:31pm Tate #62 wrote on 01/19/09 at 10:03pm:
I am assuming you have a Ford 9" ?? If so I can understand not wanting to change it out just to race here a few times a season. I run a Mopar 8 3/4" rear end which is very similar in design to the Ford 9". I have not dominated or won every race because of it. It made no difference. Neither rear end, 9" or 8 3/4" has any mechanical advantage over the stock GM 10 Bolt other than a wider gear selection and cheaper replacement part prices. Mopar73Car Glen Sparks |
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Title: Re: SMS Factory Stocks Post by tate on 01/19/09 at 10:43pm yes i have a ford 9in |
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Title: Re: SMS Factory Stocks Post by rickybobby33x on 01/20/09 at 6:48am Tate, call the track and see if they will let you run one or two races with that diff. (WORTH A CALL) Glen , the first new rule should be no battle tanks (Mopars)............... ;D Maybe a spacer or offset wheels. I could care a less....................Just want to race. ;).pete |
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Title: Re: SMS Factory Stocks Post by GRAHAM-10 on 01/20/09 at 6:50am PETE YOU JUST DON'T GIVE A @#$% ABOUT ANYTHING DO YOU EXCEPT FOR COORS...OLD SCHOOL |
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Title: Re: SMS Factory Stocks Post by 32MORGAN on 01/20/09 at 7:18am TATE, Ivan at bako has let sms factorys run with bako for 2-3 years, the cars are really close. you shouldn't have to change anything, that's what were working for. the cars that have made changes and tried to run with us have carb, intake leaks and other issues. the bako schedule this years doesn't have the 3-4 week breaks it did last year. so your not going to have the time to make the changes to your car. just call the sms office and see what they say (805-202-1492) ask them if you can run your car(BAKO RULES) the way it is? |
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Title: Re: SMS Factory Stocks Post by Mopar73Car on 01/20/09 at 7:34am [smiley=grin.gif] ;D :D ;DOffset wheels and wheel spacers, I like that not too exspensive of an option if a guy wants to buy them. And the wheel spacers can be home made (empty Coors cans from Pete). Mopar73Car Glen Sparks |
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Title: Re: SMS Factory Stocks Post by 32MORGAN on 01/20/09 at 11:43am COME-ON GLEN, PULL YOUR HEAD OUT OF YOUR MOPAR!!! OFFSET WHEELS JUST COST ME MORE MONEY AND MAKE ME UNLOAD MORE RIMS AND TIRES EVERY WEEK.............. |
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Title: Re: SMS Factory Stocks Post by TALON75 on 01/20/09 at 11:50am but spacers would be cool, easy low budget adjustment |
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Title: Re: SMS Factory Stocks Post by Mopar73Car on 01/20/09 at 12:22pm "OPTION" Kirk Nobody said that you had to buy them If you aint got the extra money (like I dont have either) for them...... dont buy them And Pete is the one who suggested it here Not me Mopar73Car Glen Sparks |
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Title: Re: SMS Factory Stocks Post by 32MORGAN on 01/20/09 at 1:35pm SO,,,,,,,,,YOUR GOING TO HIDE BEHIND THE SKIRT OF A CHEVELLE GUY...........LEAVE IT TO PETE TO STIR IT UP........LMAO |
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Title: Re: SMS Factory Stocks Post by rickybobby33x on 01/20/09 at 5:43pm Lookie here Mopar dude...............You asked for some ideas and I threw out a few, dont look like we will have the big blocks or 9 inch rear diffs or the high rise intake again this year..darn IT.........and Morgan is just jelous that his skirt is in the cleaners..LOL.............Last there is GRAHAM finally chiming in....WHAT EVER 10 CAR...................................... ;). |
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Title: Re: SMS Factory Stocks Post by Mopar73Car on 01/20/09 at 5:52pm 32MORGAN wrote on 01/20/09 at 1:35pm:
Hey!!!!!!!! Leave the big car / battle wagon bashing out of it! And I think Pete aint wearing skirts anymore..... (think he's wearing dresses now) But not shure. Mopar73Car Glen Sparks |
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Title: Re: SMS Factory Stocks Post by heyyou#27 on 01/20/09 at 5:56pm 32MORGAN wrote on 01/20/09 at 11:43am:
HMMMM anybody else read between lines of last sentence?...... so much for morgans "partial season"...lol off season long enough to put up with family (thanxgivin...Xmas...new yr...) time for us boys to play with our toys :D |
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Title: Re: SMS Factory Stocks Post by Mopar73Car on 01/20/09 at 6:17pm heyyou#27 wrote on 01/20/09 at 5:56pm:
"EVERY WEEK"....... So much for "partial season Morgan" LOL Mopar73Car Glen Sparks |
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Title: Re: SMS Factory Stocks Post by Ryan D. on 01/20/09 at 7:16pm TALON75 wrote on 01/20/09 at 11:50am:
Tonys right wheel spacers are a easy low budget adjustment.Im sure someones already using them. |
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Title: Re: SMS Factory Stocks Post by gl_rayburn98 on 01/21/09 at 4:45pm Like we have all said before, small CHEAP changes always lead to something else. Everything has an opposite reaction. Wheel spacers and offset wheels are simple but do cost money. Then what? Maybe wider lower a-arms...cars are handling better so now we need more power? it always is small then adds up....dont change a thing! quit trying to cost yourselves money! LEARN TO DRIVE FAST WITH WHAT YOU HAVE! Rickybobby, please just learn to drive. Mopar, show me you can load car on trailer without pushing it up manually. Morgan, come as much as you want...don't be bullied by heat race winners and wallbangers. P.S. sorry ive been gone, the party on Jan 1 was an A+ I left a little early cause a couple of drinkers were saying a little too much and I thought it be better that I leave before I turned it into a redneck fighting affair....lol. |
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Title: Re: SMS Factory Stocks Post by Mopar73Car on 01/21/09 at 5:55pm gl_rayburn98 wrote on 01/21/09 at 4:45pm:
Ok..... Gary, I will drive my race car up on my trailer to keep you happy, ..... Only if I dont screw it up by bangin into the wall and it wont run. Oh.... And I never pushed it up the trailer...used a winch. And I did miss reading your posts Good to have you back And wheel spacers are cheap handling improvements (especially if you get them from Pete...... Coors cans....... You know) Mopar73Car Glen Sparks |
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Title: Re: SMS Factory Stocks Post by AaronStewart on 01/21/09 at 5:58pm wrote on 01/21/09 at 5:55pm:
Glen-- I sure hope you meant 'winch'. ;) winch –noun 1. the crank or handle of a revolving machine. 2. a windlass turned by a crank, for hoisting or hauling. 3. any of various devices for cranking. wench -noun 1. A young woman or girl, especially a peasant girl. 2. A woman servant. 3. A wanton woman. |
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Title: Re: SMS Factory Stocks Post by Mopar73Car on 01/21/09 at 6:09pm AStewart37 wrote on 01/21/09 at 5:58pm:
Thanks Arron I fixed it...... Did have a wench winch my car in the trailer once. (She was really more of a biznitch than a wench come to think of it.) :D THX AGAIN Mopar73Car Glen Sparks |
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Title: Re: SMS Factory Stocks Post by heyyou#27 on 01/21/09 at 6:58pm Im all for offset wheels.... maybe frazier n morgan will kick down sum of their wigglie wheels, mine WOBBLE.......LOL |
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Title: Re: SMS Factory Stocks Post by rickybobby33x on 01/21/09 at 7:07pm Hey jr.........bite me....... ;D ;D ;D.still working on that slug????and Glen , get of my coors spacers........................ :D |
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Title: Re: SMS Factory Stocks Post by 32MORGAN on 01/21/09 at 7:10pm heyyou#27 wrote on 01/21/09 at 6:58pm:
"hey u" its nicole... and i just wanted to tell you that its not your wheels thats are wobble its just you!!! LOL |
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Title: Re: SMS Factory Stocks Post by heyyou#27 on 01/21/09 at 7:13pm 32MORGAN wrote on 01/21/09 at 7:10pm:
OUCH...... luv ya too sweety ;D |
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Title: Re: SMS Factory Stocks Post by benstrans on 01/21/09 at 7:15pm wrote on 01/21/09 at 6:09pm:
Thanks Arron I fixed it...... Did have a wench winch my car in the trailer once. (She was really more of a biznitch than a wench come to think of it.) :D Hey, EASE UP on Sparks, especially about the winch! If it hadn't been for his help, I'd have NEVER gotten my Mini back on the trailer with it's broken steering (MORE THAN ONCE!) A good learned, e probably came prepared just after seeing my plight. |
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Title: Re: SMS Factory Stocks Post by heyyou#27 on 01/21/09 at 7:17pm i might not even be able to run..... shaved my head.... now helmet wont fit i bet...... :D |
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Title: Re: SMS Factory Stocks Post by Mopar73Car on 01/21/09 at 7:22pm rickybobby33x wrote on 01/21/09 at 7:07pm:
Fine...... Be that way....... .005 thick for Beer can thats 3 30 packs and 10 beers to get a 1/2" wheel spacer. Gonna need some help pounding beers........ HEEEEEYY UUUUU27 [smiley=2vrolijk_08.gif] LOL J/K Mopar73Car Glen Sparks |
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Title: Re: SMS Factory Stocks Post by heyyou#27 on 01/21/09 at 7:29pm wrote on 01/21/09 at 7:22pm:
is that all.... daym I can everybody spacers before playday..... cept i wont have no money to live on.....lmao :D |
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Title: Re: SMS Factory Stocks Post by Mopar73Car on 01/21/09 at 7:32pm Hey, EASE UP on Sparks, especially about the winch! If it hadn't been for his help, I'd have NEVER gotten my Mini back on the trailer with it's broken steering (MORE THAN ONCE!) A good learned, e probably came prepared just after seeing my plight. No broblem Ben anytime you need a hand getting your Mopar on your trailer if it breaks, I will do what I can to help. Mopar73Car Glen Sparks |
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Title: Re: SMS Factory Stocks Post by Mopar73Car on 01/21/09 at 7:34pm heyyou#27 wrote on 01/21/09 at 7:29pm:
*Falls out of chair laughing ;D |
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Title: Re: SMS Factory Stocks Post by heyyou#27 on 01/21/09 at 7:40pm everybody ends up on the HOOK at sum time.... thanks to all who have helped me get my junk home those nites...... |
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Title: Re: SMS Factory Stocks Post by heyyou#27 on 01/21/09 at 8:07pm hey... Im stuck with my car... im hope'n frazier n morgan can pull a quick drive by n tell me wtf to do with this junk to make it work 1 more yr... i got sum decent jonny fab QTs....anybody know how to put em on so i can be FS "Legle".... I just wanna be......out there...... |
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Title: Re: SMS Factory Stocks Post by John Hanson Racing #44 on 01/26/09 at 6:21pm Playday at Santa Maria Speedway is coming up.How many people are we allowed to bring in the pits on playday? |
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Title: Re: SMS Factory Stocks Post by benstrans on 01/27/09 at 11:51am John Hanson Racing #44 wrote on 01/26/09 at 6:21pm:
I would assume as many as you want to pay for. I've NEVER heard of a limit. Anyone can go into the stands (for FREE) AND the beer stand is OPEN. |
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Title: Re: SMS Factory Stocks Post by John Hanson Racing #44 on 01/29/09 at 8:10pm Is it free to race playday?Are one or two pit crew free as well? If not, how much is it? |
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Title: Re: SMS Factory Stocks Post by rickybobby33x on 01/30/09 at 6:49am Man you ask a lot of questions, hope your not like that at the track............. ;D Just keep up with Morgan and the rest of us and we will keep you posted. How that little racer doing, and mama..............................pete |
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Title: Re: SMS Factory Stocks Post by benstrans on 01/30/09 at 10:28am John Hanson Racing #44 wrote on 01/29/09 at 8:10pm:
You'd best call the track and ask what the entry fee will be. Since they're opening the track and prepping it, it probably won't be free. |
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Title: Re: SMS Factory Stocks Post by John Hanson Racing #44 on 02/13/09 at 8:32pm I think it would be awesome to have at least one race this year where we have qualifying and a 50 lap race. Because of time constraints we could have it on the night where only 3 divisions are racing. I looked on the schedule and there was one night with late models,modifieds,and factory stocks.Factory stocks have gotten alot faster over the years and I know we would put on a great show for the fans! |
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Title: Re: SMS Factory Stocks Post by 32MORGAN on 02/13/09 at 8:56pm if you added the bako hobby's on a night like that you would have plenty of cars for the show. |
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Title: Re: SMS Factory Stocks Post by Linson-34 on 02/13/09 at 8:58pm local open show? what would we do with ourselves!! :D |
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Title: Re: SMS Factory Stocks Post by gl_rayburn98 on 02/15/09 at 2:12pm I would still pay for a hotel room just so I would feel like I was still spending a ton of money. 50 laps sound fun but qualifing is kind of boring for the fans. |
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Title: Re: SMS Factory Stocks Post by jr07 on 02/15/09 at 4:17pm Qualify before 6:00 |
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Title: Re: SMS Factory Stocks Post by 18 fan on 02/16/09 at 6:07pm jr07 wrote on 02/15/09 at 4:17pm:
its not like anyboy really shows up before 7:30pm or so anyways |
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Title: Re: SMS Factory Stocks Post by John Hanson Racing #44 on 02/24/09 at 8:11pm Who is running for points this year?There are 13 races compared to 15 last year. So hopefully we will have more laps for the main events. |
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Title: Re: SMS Factory Stocks Post by benstrans on 02/24/09 at 8:19pm John Hanson Racing #44 wrote on 02/24/09 at 8:11pm:
MORE LAPS? C'mon, you F/S guys can't get half the starters to finish now with 20 laps. Are you asking for an Enduro? OR..... Maybe a 'last man standing" like a demo derby? Just stick to the regular 20! That way, you get to start the BBQ sooner. After all, it IS Santa Maria!!! |
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Title: Re: SMS Factory Stocks Post by rickybobby33x on 02/25/09 at 6:49am We , factory stocks have run the smoothest in the last two years.................The other div. were the ones keeping us behind.All night pushing sprints, mods all over the place. The minis were also moving along pretty good last year. SO bring on more laps....................................................... :) JMO....pete 33 f/s |
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Title: Re: SMS Factory Stocks Post by bouncermike on 02/25/09 at 7:40am nothing against the factorys and minis but the people come to see the upper divisions!!! |
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Title: Re: SMS Factory Stocks Post by benstrans on 02/25/09 at 9:13am bouncermike wrote on 02/25/09 at 7:40am:
The Minis and Factorys go to SMS for a BBQ. Every once in a while a race breaks out and interrupts us. |
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Title: Re: SMS Factory Stocks Post by gl_rayburn98 on 02/25/09 at 12:15pm Fillers make the world go round bouncermike. There are a few who come to see the FS class...a few... LOL...don't worry though, Morgan will pop on with another love fest for the bako guys again and we can comment on that. I was thinking Morgan, you kind of have a thing for those guys. When you stayed over there the last time, did you meet someone....a sancho or something. He must of taken you out to dinner or something....real nice. |
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Title: Re: SMS Factory Stocks Post by bouncermike on 02/25/09 at 12:33pm hey dont get me wrong at all i LOVE the factorys and minis thats where i started and its great racing and great guys! they put in as much time and effort as any division does and i think they should get paid more! |
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Title: Re: SMS Factory Stocks Post by Wooliebuger1 on 02/25/09 at 12:40pm From a fan in the stands, any racing night at SMS no matter what classes are running, is a great night of racing. From Mini's to winged sprints, to TQM, and Vintages, LM's IMCA's, F/S's its all great racing for the fans. Some like certain classes better than others, but SMS is great for the fans of racing...JMO...Don |
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Title: Re: SMS Factory Stocks Post by rickybobby33x on 02/25/09 at 1:19pm Benstrans , you are very correct we (factorys) are some BBq fools.......................... :D Mainly to eat, drink and b/s over the races....................Thats how we roll.............Looking forward to another year of Racing and BBQ. PETE 33 F/S |
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Title: Re: SMS Factory Stocks Post by 32MORGAN on 02/25/09 at 2:49pm gl_rayburn98 wrote on 02/25/09 at 12:15pm:
what the hell gary jr, someone turn you over and stuff a BEAN up your *ss. i've got a lady at home and don't need anything but competition. you follow racing, if you want to run better in our class you have to go to bako, striaght up a notch higher than us. jmo don't be over confident bouncer mike, if all that's running at the speedway are sprint's and midget's, or sprints and super latemodels,,,,,,,,,,I STAY HOME i think that the speedway's should pay off of car counts, more than 20 more money, less than 20 less money. jmo |
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Title: Re: SMS Factory Stocks Post by Chad11 on 02/25/09 at 3:03pm 32MORGAN wrote on 02/25/09 at 2:49pm:
The first year I ran in Victorville the purse was $200 to win. Every car over 20 increased the purse 5%. Every car under 20 the purse decreased 5%. With car counts in the 40's and the occasional sponsor addition of 50 bucks or so, I had a couple wins that paid over $450. This was in 2001...I forget who was the track manager then, Bob Forester I think. |
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Title: Re: SMS Factory Stocks Post by Mopar73Car on 02/25/09 at 10:51pm The first year I ran in Victorville the purse was $200 to win. Every car over 20 increased the purse 5%. Every car under 20 the purse decreased 5%. With car counts in the 40's and the occasional sponsor addition of 50 bucks or so, I had a couple wins that paid over $450. This was in 2001...I forget who was the track manager then, Bob Forester I think. QUOTE With a payout system like that, as long as the minimum payment stayed the same for a low car count ($300), would really bring the cars out. "You get what you pay for" Chad, do yo recall what the pay scale was like from 2nd on back? THX Mopar73Car Glen Sparks |
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Title: Re: SMS Factory Stocks Post by gl_rayburn98 on 02/25/09 at 10:52pm I understand that Morgan, but I think you misunderstood. I was saying you always talk about bako GUYS...get it? Sancho...maybe I should explain slowly....are you dating a guy there (sancho)? anyways, its not funny anymore cause you killed the joke...Me, Dale, and Dad will be going to opening night to root for you. We will be the ones with signs morgan signs and t-shirts.... P.S. I forget that you are over like a hundred years old and don't always get the jokes. |
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Title: Re: SMS Factory Stocks Post by Mopar73Car on 02/25/09 at 10:56pm gl_rayburn98 wrote on 02/25/09 at 10:52pm:
;D FOOCHHOWL |
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Title: Re: SMS Factory Stocks Post by gl_rayburn98 on 02/25/09 at 10:58pm By the way, if CK keeps adding these extra sponsored races like the dash for cash and the front row challenge, then the money is fine with me. I don't want to push the issue of a bigger purse right now. I would say, let the car counts get bigger with whats going on right now...cause they will. Allow CK to make a little capital and I am sure the main event money will follow in the future. I see no reason in starting a debate on money for car count right now. |
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Title: Re: SMS Factory Stocks Post by Mopar73Car on 02/25/09 at 11:24pm Hey Gary, look..... if a payout is substantial, or the possibility of becoming substantial, it will bring a good car count and conversely more fans in the stands. Right? Just look at what Chris has got planned so far. If all goes well for Him and us. It will be one of the best seasons for SMS in a long time. Again.... "You get what you pay for" You want a good car count.... Pay Them!! Mopar73Car Glen Sparks |
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Title: Re: SMS Factory Stocks Post by 32MORGAN on 02/26/09 at 7:27am gl_rayburn98 wrote on 02/25/09 at 10:52pm:
ya, I'm over the hill and jokes come slow. no, i'm not dating a mexican from bako or anywhere else. five son's a good wife, i'm stright as they come. but i do have friends in the racing family over there. you be careful in vegas and watch out for the weird-o's or maybe they should watch-out for you. :D........lol |
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Title: Re: SMS Factory Stocks Post by bouncermike on 02/26/09 at 8:02am HEY MORGAN IM AN OLD GUY TOO! BUT WHEN YOUR OVER THE HILL YOU REALLY PICK UP SPEED! AND BE CAREFULL I THINK RAYBURNS HITTIN ON YOU! lol :D |
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Title: Re: SMS Factory Stocks Post by 32MORGAN on 02/26/09 at 9:43am THANKS FOR CLARIFACATION MIKE, GLAD YOU HAVE MY BACK. I GUESS WE NEED TO GET JR LAID WHILE HE'S IN VEGAS, AFTER ALL HE IS A SINGLE USED UP EX SPRINT CAR RACER. LMFAO |
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Title: Re: SMS Factory Stocks Post by gl_rayburn98 on 02/26/09 at 10:34am LOL, now I am really laughing out loud. Whatever bouncermike. I am too high maintenance to be gay lol. I need a rich sugarmama who wants to buy me a racecar. So, in the future, if you guys see me roll up with some old ugly chick and I am pulling a new racecar....then don't frown on me. I am a happy man.....lol |
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Title: Re: SMS Factory Stocks Post by bouncermike on 02/26/09 at 10:38am garry did i hit a nerve??the doors open now cmon outa the closet! LOL |
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Title: Re: SMS Factory Stocks Post by Chad11 on 02/26/09 at 12:33pm wrote on 02/25/09 at 10:51pm:
It was very close to Bako at the time...200,150,125,100. Another thing they did was invert the whole field based on point earned average. If you had to tansfer to the main through a B-main, you could still start on the front row of the A-main. Highest point earned average always started 20th. Was the same guy most of the year and he still got 3 wins. Made the whole race more exciting. They also awarded passing points. |
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Title: Re: SMS Factory Stocks Post by John Hanson Racing #44 on 04/14/09 at 8:47pm Looking forward to the opening night.I am excited to see how our top factory stock drivers compete with the top drivers from bako.I don't know any bako drivers but I do know that our top sms drivers are very skilled and put alot of time and hardwork on their cars and it shows.See you guys opening night! |
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Title: SMS Factory Stocks vs. Bako Hobbys Post by John Hanson Racing #44 on 04/23/09 at 6:55pm I know the hobby stocks are really fast,but what are the biggest differences between a Bako hobby stock and a SMS factory stock? |
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Title: Re: SMS Factory Stocks Post by bouncermike on 04/23/09 at 7:02pm $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ |
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