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http://www.latemodelracer.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl Tracks >> ANTIOCH SPEEDWAY >> Antioch Spdwy Dirt Modified Points http://www.latemodelracer.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1311904468 Message started by MikeEng61 on 07/28/11 at 6:54pm |
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Title: Antioch Spdwy Dirt Modified Points Post by MikeEng61 on 07/28/11 at 6:54pm It has been brought to my attention by an insider at Antioch Speedway that the points are incorrect for the Dirt Modified class. I have been informed that specifically they are being altered to benefit the #49 of Foulger. Apparently this is being done to reel in another Championshp as well as Western Points. Due to this disturbing news I myself have recalculated the points for the season and they are in no way shape of form close to what Antioch Speedway has listed on their website. As a racer and fan I feel it is best for all my fellow racers and fans to know what a discrace this is. Could this be happening at Merced as well? What is this world coming to? We are now chosing our Champions versus letting them earn it themselves... wow... |
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Title: Re: Antioch Spdwy Dirt Modified Points Post by bb49mod on 07/28/11 at 11:36pm You are too stupid to also add up heat race and dash points. The track points and ump points are different. Track is 50, 48,46,44,ect. Ump is Main event points only with a sliding scale. So unless you have a clue as to what you are talking about, then you shouldn't. Points from antioch mains add up to 364 out of 408 total. The difference is heats and dashes. At merced Chris shannon has 622 total track points, 512 from mains, the rest from heats and dashes. The numbers do add up if you have a clue as to what you are looking for or looking at!!!!! |
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Title: Re: Antioch Spdwy Dirt Modified Points Post by brianzachary on 07/29/11 at 7:00am The last word in your post sums it up to me "WOW" first of all I know the Bowers and Troy do not want to win a championship like that. I will personally Audit the points at Antioch and Merced just to put a hush to this claim. As far as Western DIRTcar points your wrong. Your Antioch insider I hope I don't find out who you are cause this is Bull and I will be taking this up with John today. That is not how Antioch and Merced speedway do business |
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Title: Re: Antioch Spdwy Dirt Modified Points Post by 1AntiochInsider on 07/29/11 at 8:16am brianzachary wrote on 07/29/11 at 7:00am:
signed Tommy Laliberte 2010 Wingless Sprint car "champion". Don't act like precedent hasn't been set. |
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Title: Re: Antioch Spdwy Dirt Modified Points Post by bb49mod on 07/29/11 at 8:42am Anyone who wants to audit the ump points can do so by going to ump's web page. Look at open wheel modified point, click on national points, scroll down and click on Troy Foulger. The a main results will come up. Write down the results- or print the results. Then go to the points structure on ump's site and add the numbers up. Like I said, it is a sliding scale, based on car count, and not a set drop off like antioch and merced have for the track points. Remember, "inside" info is not always the best to go off of. The results from antioch are posted on their web page under RESULTS. Add it up, Remember, 50, 48,46,44,42,40,38,36,34,32,20,28,26,24,22,20,18,16,14,12,10,8,6,4,2. The heat races and dashes are 6,4,2. I got 404 total when I did it, antioch has it at 408--not bad for something that doesn't resemble the points in any way, shape, or form. I do hope the points will be audited, at both tracks and in All divisions, because when the final night comes, every champion, who ever they are, should be able to celebrate right then and there!!! I also hope that if there are any extra or missing points found for any driver, it will be adjusted now. Our results are out there for who ever wants to see them, just look, and know what you are talking about. When you don't have a clue it really makes you look STUPID!!!!! :) |
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Title: Re: Antioch Spdwy Dirt Modified Points Post by bb49mod on 07/29/11 at 8:52am 1AntiochInsider wrote on 07/29/11 at 8:16am:
Our results are out there, in the public eye, for all to see. Don't take a fools word for it, if you do you will be a fool too. Look at all the info, from the tracks, and ump, and add the points for yourself. I will loan you a calculator, or pencil and paper if you need them. Don't compare our results to anything that has happened with other divisions. Our points are there to be seen by everyone. All the info you need for the resources to find them are also there, have fun adding the numbers. |
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Title: Re: Antioch Spdwy Dirt Modified Points Post by brianzachary on 07/29/11 at 9:06am 1AntiochInsider wrote on 07/29/11 at 8:16am:
What precedent are you talking about? I have all the results and are going thru them and other then the 4 point difference that was pointed out Troy is leading this point cause Busby did not show up to the last race at Antioch. Im not trying to take anything from Troy by saying that but that is the fact. DIRTcar point and race results http://www.dirtcarump.com/points/modified-points/2011-dirtcar-ump-modified-northwest-states-championship-standings/ |
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Title: Re: Antioch Spdwy Dirt Modified Points Post by 1AntiochInsider on 07/29/11 at 10:00am While not arguing that Troy's points are wrong, because they most likely aren't, last year's Wingless Sprint car points came down to a last race showdown between the 41 and Laliberte. I believe the difference was like 1 or 2 points or maybe even tied. Laliberte flips out of the race, the 41 finishes in the top 3. Then Laliberte comes back out a couple laps down and still wins the overall points somehow. There is your precedent. |
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Title: Re: Antioch Spdwy Dirt Modified Points Post by nobody_u_know on 07/29/11 at 10:03am bb49mod wrote on 07/29/11 at 8:52am:
Troy, Don't even let that B.S. bother you. Anyone who can't win looks for the excuse and reason why. Its never that they got beat. Its always because their car wasn't running or they had problems or someone took them out... Only way you win points is cause either your cheating or someone is cheating the points. I heard for years how Stone was cheating in Merced because he won all the time. It couldn't be he had enough laps to know that track inside and out, its cause he had traction control or ect. Shephard was cheating at Chow, once again not because they worked hard to find the set-up that works and raced the track enough to know it so well they could tell you what the track was doing before it happened. Don't answer to anyone, those who know you are plenty aware you don't cheat and earn everything you have done! |
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Title: Re: Antioch Spdwy Dirt Modified Points Post by brianzachary on 07/29/11 at 10:37am I was not involved with Antioch at the end of 2010 to comment on this claim. There are alot of things that may have happened during the race like what lap he left the track what lap he came back on other cars laps down heat race points dash points that could have effected it. |
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Title: Re: Antioch Spdwy Dirt Modified Points Post by bb49mod on 07/29/11 at 12:17pm Brian, while you are checking the points, can you find out why the race from 7-10-11 at merced is not reflected on the national/regional points. If we EARNED them then we want them. Thanks, Bill Bowers Jr. |
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Title: Re: Antioch Spdwy Dirt Modified Points Post by msalazar29 on 07/29/11 at 4:08pm not to but in cause this has nothing to do with me but its been known that the points on the internet are not offical anyway you have to get the sheet from the track I looked at the results from the net and they are missing one of the nights that I was there and didnt get scored points acording to the net |
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Title: Re: Antioch Spdwy Dirt Modified Points Post by TroyFoulgerHater on 07/29/11 at 5:09pm The Bowers team has so much money they just buy championships! Look how many they have at Antioch! And how many just in the last few years! :D |
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Title: Re: Antioch Spdwy Dirt Modified Points Post by bb49mod on 07/29/11 at 5:32pm CrazyDodgeGuy wrote on 07/29/11 at 5:09pm:
Thats funny. I just completed another 17 hr work WEEK! I just see the $ rolling in. |
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