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http://www.latemodelracer.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl Saturday Night Racer >> SNR LOUNGE >> Did anyone else hear about this? http://www.latemodelracer.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1366407600 Message started by 18racr on 04/19/13 at 2:40pm |
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Title: Did anyone else hear about this? Post by 18racr on 04/19/13 at 2:40pm Glen Beck says he has evidence about a government cover up on Boston, says Obummer and the rest has until monday to come clean or he is spilling the beans about it, says he doesnt bluff either, says the news will either save the country or it will end the country, dont know how to post the video? |
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Title: Re: Did anyone else hear about this? Post by 18racr on 04/19/13 at 4:37pm And don't you think it's alittle funny the government was running another test during the same day as the last major killing spree? Sandy Hook had a test going on in town as well, and isn't amazing how the town of Boston is on total lockdown? Is it a test to see what exactly the government can get away with before they launch a major martial law all over? Amazingly Boston is big on gun control laws, makes it alittle easier to do martial law when no one can defend themselves, Ever wonder why the whole town is on lock down for one 19 year old? Kind of over kill isn't it? People better wake up and read between the lines!! |
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Title: Re: Did anyone else hear about this? Post by OLD SCHOOL#6 on 04/19/13 at 6:25pm 18racr wrote on 04/19/13 at 4:37pm:
No need, you will do it for us .................... |
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Title: Re: Did anyone else hear about this? Post by mudslinger47 on 04/21/13 at 6:37pm I dfon't know, I probably have more trust in 18racer the this administration...jus sayin.. |
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Title: Re: Did anyone else hear about this? Post by Dietzsch_Racing25 on 04/23/13 at 1:30pm Someone sent me a link to this article: http://www.glennbeck.com/2013/04/19/glenn-%E2%80%9Cafter-what-i-have-learned-this-week-im-a-changed-person-%E2%80%9D/ My question is... If this is so dam important why wait until Monday? CD |
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Title: Re: Did anyone else hear about this? Post by Dietzsch_Racing25 on 04/23/13 at 1:48pm So I was reading the comments at the end of this article: http://www.glennbeck.com/2013/04/19/glenn-%E2%80%9Cafter-what-i-have-learned-this-week-im-a-changed-person-%E2%80%9D/ Some of the comments are three days old. So that means he said this at least three days ago. That means that "Monday" should have been this past Monday (yesterday). Am I missing something? It seems a little fishy to me that he would say that he has learned something that is extremely important, something that could change our country forever, but he wants to keep it a secret until Monday. Seems to me it can't be that important if he can just sit on the information for a week. I hope I am right and I hope that Beck is just trying to sell subscriptions to his website.... stay tuned I will tell you all about it after this commercial break. I will still be waiting for his announcement to see what he knows. CD |
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Title: Re: Did anyone else hear about this? Post by Perry25 on 04/23/13 at 2:20pm He already announced it yesterday. He said on his show on Friday he sent the information to several major news channels to see if they would report it also and if none did he would break it on Monday, which he did. |
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Title: Re: Did anyone else hear about this? Post by Dietzsch_Racing25 on 04/23/13 at 4:03pm Perry25 wrote on 04/23/13 at 2:20pm:
Now I understand why he would delay releasing the info. Either the other news organizations have decided the info is not credible or have decided not to report it. So what is the big news? Who is this guy they are gonna deport? Has it ripped apart the country or saved it? CD |
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Title: Re: Did anyone else hear about this? Post by mudslinger47 on 04/23/13 at 6:28pm Beck puts out a lot of info, I have never personally found any of his information to be lies. I don't always agree with his extrapolations, but his facts are pretty credible. What he is questioning this time is valid, the 19yr old bomber was a college student with no visible means of support but cruising around in a late model Porsche, and his brother, also not working in a Mercedes and the mother not working either. And the father is in Kazakhstan for the last many months, supposedly a garage mechanic (pardon the eyeroll here). Now take in to account that the family left K-Stan on a Political Persecution visa, granted by our state department, but the father returns in a relatively short period of time back to K-stan, and stays there most of the time...what is the family living on. Thats Becks only question in this instance, someone is feeding them money but no one cares or seems to care to find out. The older brother went back to K-Stan for about 6 months. Russia informed the US intelligence agency (an obvious oxymoron) the the older brother had met with underground Islamics at least six times...something else beck is questioning why no one is asking any questions about....so you see, it appears to me these are credible questions...Pop must be a hellova mechanic and Garages in Kazakhstan must pay exceptionally well... You see Becks point? |
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Title: Re: Did anyone else hear about this? Post by Dietzsch_Racing25 on 04/24/13 at 9:57am Yes I do see his point. It is frustrating. I think he has done himself a dis-service to some degree by pushing himself underground (he is no longer on radio or TV). It is tougher to get his message out to the general public (including myself). The article that I posted a link to (on his website) didn't say anything about what you referred to. Mainly talked about another person that was somehow linked to the bombings being deported. I am surprised fox hasn't picked this up or any of the talk radio shows. |
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Title: Re: Did anyone else hear about this? Post by Perry25 on 04/24/13 at 12:19pm Beck is on the radio (fresno 96.7 fm 6-9am) and limited TV. His network is carried on Dish network |
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Title: Re: Did anyone else hear about this? Post by Dietzsch_Racing25 on 04/24/13 at 2:35pm I am a little sheltered... I don't have cable or satelite so I can't watch him (didn't know he had a cable show). I thought he started his own internet station when he left fox. He got kicked off (displaced) on the stations he used to be on down here in Riverside so I can't listen to him either. I don't like him enough to pay for the privalege. CD |
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Title: Re: Did anyone else hear about this? Post by formercrewguy on 04/24/13 at 3:16pm Dietzsch_Racing25 wrote on 04/24/13 at 2:35pm:
Yea,i can only stand him for about 5 mins at a time. And, this whole conspiracy thing is bunk. |
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Title: Re: Did anyone else hear about this? Post by mudslinger47 on 04/24/13 at 7:02pm There is no conspiracy, just questions...questions that deserve answers.... There are ten Senators and Congressmen as well as a couple CIA and FBI guys asking the same questions. Just questions, no conspiracy. J. Napolitano told three different stories about this deal in three days, under oath each time and each time a different story....just questions.... Remember Benghazi, that was on the up and up too :o ::) |
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Title: Re: Did anyone else hear about this? Post by 18racr on 04/25/13 at 6:32am he is being slowly pushed out of the mainstream media because they only report what others want you to hear, he is trying to wake Americans up to the fact we are led by a group(Dems and Reps) that are controlled by others, wake up America!! smoke and mirrors are being used on you, I just watched a movie last night, it was called Promise land, matt damon(sp) starred in it, it basically shows you how big companys twist things into getting the public to give them what they want, it works the same way with our government, we are fed by both sides but in the end its the same story, people need to start getting news from outside the mainstream media, its the only chance we have, DO NOT BELIEVE EVERYTHING YOU HEAR ON TV!! go find the truth, its out there! |
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Title: Re: Did anyone else hear about this? Post by dscEvents on 04/30/13 at 1:43pm He is being pushed out the mainstream media because he doesn't have enough sponsor support to give him a prime time show. It's called the free market. Beck still has The Blaze on the internet for all that are willing to pay for his drivel. Obviously not many are paying. Beck has often had what he describes as blockbuster or "game-changing" information that he is about to uncover. But it has always turned out to fall short of what he promised. By now the country should have been either saved or destroyed based on Beck's claims of some "evidence" he claims to have. His press releases about what he has coming seem to be bigger than the actual information he eventually releases. Beck, like Alex Jones, has been pushing this theory that the government staged the Boston bombings. Beck's lack of airtime has less to do with some media conspiracy to silence him then with the public's finally getting tired of him crying wolf. |
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Title: Re: Did anyone else hear about this? Post by formercrewguy on 04/30/13 at 5:27pm dscEvents wrote on 04/30/13 at 1:43pm:
Alex Jones is a real nutcase. |
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Title: Re: Did anyone else hear about this? Post by Perry25 on 04/30/13 at 6:52pm dscEvents wrote on 04/30/13 at 1:43pm:
Dont know about Alex Jones but Beck has never said the Boston bombings were staged. His only question have to do with possible Saudi involvement. If Napolotano had answered the questions instead of first avoiding the question, then lying about it, before coming up with a plasible explanation, Beck would have no story. |
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Title: Re: Did anyone else hear about this? Post by formercrewguy on 04/30/13 at 8:16pm Alex Jones thinks the US govt flew the planes into the towers. Case closed. Nutsack. |
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Title: Re: Did anyone else hear about this? Post by speeddoggie on 05/01/13 at 5:07am I can't stand Jones either but there is something amiss if these stories of foreign governments providing warnings are true. Here is another. EXCLUSIVE: Saudi Arabia 'warned the United States IN WRITING about Boston Bomber Tamerlan Tsarnaev in 2012' Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2317493/Saudi-official-Kingdom-warned-United-States-IN-WRITING-Boston-Bomber-Tamerlan-Tsarnaev-2012-rejected-application-entry-visa-visit-Mecca-2011.html#ixzz2S2fizxjS Follow us: @MailOnline on Twitter | DailyMail on another site |
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Title: Re: Did anyone else hear about this? Post by formercrewguy on 05/01/13 at 8:17am The Patriot Act gives obama and all of HIS agencies all the tools they need to closely monitor these radicals when they become known. We were warned about the older brother and his mom. The FBI did nothing. Is obama going to claim "the sequester" for this? |
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Title: Re: Did anyone else hear about this? Post by dscEvents on 05/01/13 at 11:27am The FBI gets thousands of tips each year. And even the tips from foreign governments often turn out to be nothing more than the foreign government trying to settle a score of someone they consider an enemy to their government. The Russian government has a habit of reporting any protesting Russian to the US State Dept as a possible terrorist. And while the Chechen's have been a big problem for Russia, they historically have been supporters of the US because the US has sided with the Chechen's against the brutality of the Russian campaign in Chechnya. The US has given many Chechen's political asylum for that reason. So it is not surprising that the FBI and State Dept did not find enough on this guy to detain or deport him. The younger brother being a US Citizen added more obstacles to any pre-action on him without evidence of an actual crime. I think it is perfectly valid to ask questions about what information the FBI had on the brothers before the bombing. But hindsight is 20/20 in these deals. I think the brothers probably should have been on the terror watch list, but I also know that list is fraught with errors and is basically ineffective for those other than the biggest, most well known terrorists. Heck, I've seen Tea Partiers speak about the overthrow of the Federal government at town hall meetings. But I don't think they were actually planning a terror attack. Nor do I think they should put tea party folks under surveillance. That's the problem (and the virtue) of living in a free country. You just can't pick up and jail anyone who speaks negatively about the US until they actually commit a crime. As far as the Saudi deportation goes, it has been pretty well reported that the person in the hospital with burns was a completely different person than the one they had in custody for an unrelated visa violation. And the Saudi in the hospital was determined early on to be a random victim and not a suspect. The news media, in an effort to report quickly, just went with the "Saudi-in-custody" story too soon (something they all did on many reported stories that turned out to be false). Beck and his cohorts just took that and concocted some conspiracy. I've never been a big conspiracy guy. Too many people just can't keep a secret. dsc |
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Title: Re: Did anyone else hear about this? Post by mudslinger47 on 05/01/13 at 1:07pm I'm not a big conspiracy guy either, for the same reason, however, I wouldn't take the word of this administration for one second. They have repeatedly lied to us, including Benghazi and there is no reason to believe that they aren't lying about the bomb suspects and those associated with them. When you develop a pattern of lying, no one, and I mean no one aught to believe a word out of your administration. Dave, you seem to be believing the bilge there feeding you, that will make you one of the sheeple. PS I get the Blaze and its free... Beck is worth millions, so much for your he's drying up theory....I get his TV channel too...at no extra charge.... |
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Title: Re: Did anyone else hear about this? Post by dscEvents on 05/01/13 at 2:19pm I don't automatically believe everything this or any other administration tells me. I also don't automatically disbelieve everything this or any other administration says either. I check things out myself and apply my own knowledge and experience to form an opinion. And my experience is that all these anti-government theories and predictions turn out to be nothing. No FEMA concentration camps, no one-world currency, no UN agents taking away our guns, Michele Obama has not outlawed cheeseburgers. And let's not forget Beck's prediction of runaway inflation by 2009, then 2010, then 2011, then 2012, then... oh heck with it... trust me it's coming! Beck was using this inflation fear narrative as he was being paid to push gold even as it hit $1900 an ounce (It closed today down $25 at $1446 per ounce). Also, can you name me one politician or partisan pundit that doesn't have a "pattern of lying"? Are you forming any opinions based on what you hear from a politician or pundit? And my point about Glenn Beck seems to be bolstered by your point. Beck is still getting his message out. No conspiracy to silence him from some mysterious media cartel. He lost his show on Fox because he lost his sponsors by his continued claims that were proved to be overblown or a figment of his imagination. If Beck has some real evidence of something why doesn't he put it out there instead of hiding behind "just asking questions"? He has promised information that would either save or end this country. Sounds pretty ominous until you consider the source is Chicken Little. dsc |
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Title: Re: Did anyone else hear about this? Post by jr07 on 05/01/13 at 6:44pm All I can add to this conversation is that this Government whether it be Obama or Bush would stop at nothing to protect the Saudis from any connection to anything anti-American. It was done in 2001 and I believe it's being done again. And once again Eric Holder is right in the middle of it. According to the law in the state of Mass. an arrest made without a warrant issued on a suspect allows authorities up to 4 weeks to present that suspect before a Judge and Miranda doesn't apply without a warrant before you appear before a Judge. The Feds had at least 3 1/2 more weeks to question the wounded bomber but in walked a DOJ lawyer and Federal Judge while CIA and FBI are questioning him, they read him his Miranda rights and tell him to shut up. The same way Deputy AG Holder wouldn't let the FBI look at the 20th hi-jackers computer back in 2001, which would have played a role in perhaps thwarting that attack altogether. This Government will stop at nothing to protect the Saudis. NOTHING!!! |
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Title: Re: Did anyone else hear about this? Post by mudslinger47 on 05/01/13 at 8:17pm dscEvents wrote on 05/01/13 at 2:19pm:
Dave, I don't even know where to start, but here goes. You pointed out Becks prediction about gold....how many times has the weatherman been wrong? thats why its called a prediction...that was super lame, Dave... Beck has asked a lot of questions about Benghazi and the Boston bombing, and why shouldn't he? the rest of the media won't ask anything. Do you believe the Benghazi incident was caused by a video? Thats what the White House told you...was that the truth? You know the guy that made the film short is still in jail? You know that Napolitano gave three differing renditions on the bombing, all different and all under oath in three consecutive days...Wouldn't it seem as though that at the very least she lied on two of those days, if not all three? Now its being reported that three or four people that want to testify about Benghazi are being blocked and threatened, does that sound like an administration thats been telling the truth? http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/04/29/obama-administration-officials-have-threatened-whistle-blowers-on-benghazi/ Everyone always says Beck and Limbaugh and Hannity are always lying and inciting, not true, all three read items out of the public record (news papers and the like) and comment on those articles, if its their opinion, then it can't necessarily be a lie, can it... Do you think for one minute that if obummer could figure out a way to take every gun away from every American that he wouldn't do it? I don't know for sure, but I wouldn't bet against it.... As far as the gun legislation put forth by this administration and using the victims of Sandy Hook as a back drop, would anyone of their proposed laws have made a nichols worth of difference in Sandy Hook? Answer, no, not one. As a matter of fact the present laws worked perfectly, the son that committed the crime tried to get a gun and was unable because of his stability issues. No law could have stopped the mother from being careless and paying the ultimate price for that carelessness. I can go one for hours, let me know if you need more .... |
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Title: Re: Did anyone else hear about this? Post by 18racr on 05/02/13 at 6:26am Dave you are one of the SHEEPLE... if you wasnt one of them you would be on here asking the same questions everyone else is, open your eyes man, its right in front of you, the truth is not that hard to see, |
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Title: Re: Did anyone else hear about this? Post by dscEvents on 05/02/13 at 2:29pm Duane, I would bet that the weatherman has a better track record of predictions then Beck. I see you are back to the same, "if it's an opinion, it can't be a lie?, canard. But an opinion, even if not a lie, can certainly be provably wrong. And the strange and illogical idea that someone's record of prediction is irrelevant to valuing future predictions because it's only a prediction is what is "super lame". Everyone is entitled to their opinion. No argument there. But to value all opinions and predictions the same is crazy. At some point you have to evaluate one's record of predictions to determine the value of future predictions. It's just common sense. If you are a businessperson, would you continue to take the advice of a consultant that was constantly wrong in their predictions and evaluations? Not if you want to be a successful business person. I use the same standard with anyone giving predictions, whether in business, personal, or political. And Beck's record of predictions is pretty well documented. He is always making bold predictions of grave danger happening within days or weeks. But then after those days and weeks pass without anything close to his prediction happening he simply moves on to another prediction. I have only pointed out that as someone with cognitive abilities, I have made the judgement that Beck's predictions are not worth much based on his past record. That is not to say that Beck is ALWAYS wrong. No one is always wrong. And nothing in my post has anything to do with Benghazi. The debate was about Glenn Beck and his goofy Saudi theory and his broken promise of some blockbuster information that could save or end the US that he was supposed to reveal almost two weeks ago. I'm still waiting, but won't hold my breath. Address that subject if you can. And 18rcr, you can call me names if you like to avoid the points I made, but it isn't too convincing. I have asked the questions. But I have also found answers to many of them. Some I have already posted for the record. But I would be happy to respectfully discuss them with you if you are able to do that. BTW, Duane is still allowed to call me names cuz he's my buddy. Still waiting to meet you 18rcr. Hope you can come out to Cali soon for a race. dsc |
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Title: Re: Did anyone else hear about this? Post by mudslinger47 on 05/03/13 at 8:51am Dave, as I have said, I rely on these pundits for facts, I don't generally hold their extrapolations with much weight. Whether you like Beck or not, his facts are right on and his questions are valid. Out of his own mouth he will tell you, "Don't believe me, do your own research".. You can't get much more straightforward then that. Wouldn't it be nice if our own administration would be so forthcoming? There are very very few people in this government that I'd trust for information, and that includes a bunch of Republicans, mostly the leadership. |
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Title: Re: Did anyone else hear about this? Post by 18racr on 05/13/13 at 12:48pm Did anyone else hear about this? Something sure is fishy, I wonder if this was just a test? I never heard anything on nightly news about it. its like they are keeping it hush hush... Kinda strange how its another saudi involved, A Saudi man was arrested at Detroit Metropolitan Airport with a pressure cooker, less than a month after a bomb using one of the kitchen devices was used to kill three and injure hundreds. Hussain Al Kwawahir was charged in federal court with using an altered passport and lying to a Customs and Border Protection Agent about the pressure cooker, according to The Detroit News. Al Kwawahir arrived Saturday from Saudi Arabia, via Amsterdam, according to a criminal complaint filed Monday in federal court. He told investigators he was here to see a nephew who attends the University of Toledo. Customs officials noticed a page missing from his passport, then found the pressure cooker during an examination of his baggage, according to authorities. Al Kwawahir said he brought the pressure cooker for his nephew because the devices are not sold in the United States, according to the complaint. He later changed his story, saying his nephew had bought a pressure cooker in the U.S. but it was broken. |
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