I got regular unleaded for ~$2.29/gal at the Fastrip on University and Mt. Vernon-- near BC.

17 FACTORY'S FROM SMS SHOWING UP FOR THE SHOW

looks like it will be 18 from SMS if my slug of van makes it, Aaron, u taken that tow truck?.....lol

i agree with you danny i beleive all the tracks around most of california should get together and decide on the same rules so any class can go anywhere and race not just limited to 1 or 2 tracks it kills racing with low car counts any on else have any input?

yeah it does. marshal i tried to call u and i got a voice mail box thing saying there wasnt a number at that number. i was going to let u know ur aloud to run. that was like a week ago or something but yeah

i dont know anything about them so sure let them run to lol.

outlawaaron55 wrote on 10/10/06 at 11:26pm:

Damm that's a sweet sponser to score!  wat time you guys head'n out?

Fantasy SMS-Bako 2007 rules--------------

SMS factory stocks
1) Allow 9" non floaters.
2) Allow steering quickner.
3) New weight rule to be 3400 lbs.
4) Allow more interior "gutting" to mirror Bako rules.(Or what they are doing)
5) Torker ll w/4412 allowed '07, mandatory '08.
6) Phase in common camshaft rule in '07, mandatory '08  (common meaning either retain vac. rule or go to lift rule, but both tracks on same)
7 ) Change class name to Hobby stock.
8 ) Phase in common tire rule?
9 ) Allow offset wheels or wheel spacers. (Or have Bako remove offsets etc. from their rules)
10) 360 C.I. Max
11) Allow rear lowering blocks.


Bako Hobby Stocks
1) Raise cranking compression to 180. (Or phase in to '08 )
2) Find common camshaft rule with SMS.
3) Relax cylinder head rule. (Still oem cast iron-same rules except allow teams to change valve size)
4) Address cage setback and pedal setback issues to have common rule with SMS. (Allow pedals to be moved back)
5) Find common tire rule with SMS. Either A)  have tire rule to be max 7" non aggressive, etc, etc. And do away with track tire or B)  Find common track tire with SMS and phase in to '08. (I prefer no track tire)
6) Remove 15" tire only rule.
7) Get rid of 4 valve relief piston rule.


This would allow cars to run both tracks-
Other tracks seem to mirror Bako rules, so many tracks would be available to all..
Slap a 3 year year no rule change cap on it.

Problem is--- it'll never happen.

i think if enough driver got together and voiced there opinion it could possible happen

I SAY LEAVE THE RULES ALONE.IT KEEPS THE COST DOWN.IF WE START ALLOWING THIS AND THAT THEN MIGHT AS WELL BY A STREET STOCK,THAT IS WHERE THIS CLASS WILL GO IF WE ALLOW THESE CHANGES.

RCR489- The rules won't change anyway- were just talking.
That said- I know what your point is, and I get it. But.....

Using SMS as an example. The rules are being pushed anyway. If enforcement doesn't happen- this is what you'll get anyway. Bako has good enforcement. We could use a dose of it here in SM.
 Cars at SM. There are cars that are gutted down to nothing already. I got popped for cutting a hole in my kickpanels. I welded a piece back in before the next race. I go around the pits and I see cars with no inner quarters, no rear fenderwells, no kick panels at all, etc.
You know people have snuck 9" out there already. I personally know of 3 cars i've had to race that had them.
Steering quickners- They are out there, trust me.
Reduction pulleys, illegal shocks, aluminum engine components, I could go on and on.
Dont get me started on the "Street stock" style construction on some of these cars. What about the left handed cage cars we already race against? Look past the crappy paint jobs and you can see alot of clever stuff.

The items that I listed in an earlier post won't make your car faster by themselves (except maybe the offset wheels-and most guys will shoot themselves in the foot on that deal)
This class would be alot of fun if we could travel without hassles.
That said, I also think sometimes that the factory class shouldn't progress, because the low cost keeps some cars coming back. But selfishly, I'd love to have our class more like the Bako hobby. They are an exciting, fast, class. Travel would be cool- And I want the 9". But thats just me.

It won't happen anyway so just relaxxxxxx.