32MORGAN wrote on 01/19/09 at 6:25pm:



GET OFF MY MOPAR ASS????

DID THAT A LONG TIME AGO (END OF 07 SEASON) WITH A CLASS RULES PACKAGE THAT WOULD HAVE GOTTEN BOTH BAKERSFIELD HOBBYS AND SMS FACTORY'S  TO BE ABLE TO COMPETE HERE AT SMS (YOU, AND QUITE A FEW OTHER COMPETITORS HAD A HAND IN THAT RULES PACKAGE NOT JUST ME).
BUT IT WAS SHOT DOWN.......I DID MY PART.  

HERE IT IS:



 

Proposed 2008 SMS Hobby Stock Rules


November 25th 2007    Draft 7






 DEFINITION OF "STOCK" OR "OEM"In the following rules stock, stock OEM or OEM will mean that a part or dimension must
be from a standard production vehicle. "OEM" is the abbreviation for
Original Equipment Manufacturer.

SAFETY EQUIPMENT:
1. Rules apply at all times car is on track. Snell-rated SA2000 or SA2005 helmet required.
2. SFI-approved full fire suit required.
3. Fire retardant neck brace, gloves and shoes required.
4. Recommended but not required: Fire retardant head sock and underwear; head and neck restraints, roll bar padding optional in driver compartment
5. Minimum three inch wide five point safety belt assembly required
    5a. Must be mounted securely to roll cage
6. Driver-side window net required, minimum 16" x 20" ribbon or mesh style No zip ties or pop riveting. Hard mount only.
COMPETING MODELS:
1. 1964 or later American Manufactured.
2. Stock production sedan with steel top. Two or four door sedans OK
3. Pick-up, El Camino or Ford Ranchero OK must meet all rules.
4. Minimum wheel base 105 inches.
5. Minimum weight, with driver, anytime, 3,400 lbs.
6. No four wheel drive, No front wheel drive.
ROLL CAGE & CHASSIS CONSTRUCTION:
1. A full perimeter roll cage is required. No offset cage allowed.
2. There must be a minimum of four (4) driver side bars in the left door area.
3. Two (2) bars must extend from the top of roll cage to the rear of the frame rails.
4. One (1) bar must extend from the left side to right side of rear roll cage at floor pan level for seat belt attachment.
5. One (1) diagonal bar is required across the rear of roll cage from top to bottom.
6. One (1) bar must be installed from left side of roll bar to center part of cross bar at shoulder level for shoulder harness attachment.
7. Where roll bars are attached to the floor pan, must have steel mounting plates under and over floor pan.
     7a.OR 3/4" .095 Minimum steel tubing welded to inner frame rails inside car as cage mounting base.
8. All main cage roll bar material must be a minimum of 1 3/4" .090" wall steel tubing
9. Optional cage mounting plates must be a minimum of 4" x 6" x .125 steel.
10. Radiator protection bar and supports may be added. and consealed behind nose piece.
11. Left front kick pannel protection bars required (driver foot area)
12. No galvanized pipe. No thread pipe fittings allowed.
13. All roll cage welds must have a minimum 2" x .125" steel gussets.
14. Maximum, pipe diameter 2"
15. Additional roll bars with optional wall thickness and outside diameters may be added.
16. NOTE: To the entery level driver, owner, or race car builder, it is recommended, that purchasing a roll cage kit and following the assembly instructions carefully will be the most cost effective choice.
           All roll cage construction subject to technical inspection and approval
BODIES:
1. Fenders, doors and rear quarter panels may be interchanged with similar models as long as end result looks stock and does not effect the size or weight of vehicle.
2. No external reinforcing bars.
3. Front inner wheel wells may be removed
4. Fabricated body pannels OK
    4a. Any fabricated body part must be 22-gauge steel and appear stock
5. No fiberglass, No plastic or aluminum fenders, trunk lids or quarter panels
6. Aluminum hood OK
7. The dash and rear package tray may be replaced with sheet metal
8. No cutting away of interior and exterior sheet metal except as outlined:
    8a. All interior sheet metal with the exception of the front fire wall may be removed.
      8a1. Front fire wall must remain in stock location and completely sealed
      8a2. No enclosed driver compartment, No "coffin".
      8a3. Both front inner kick pannels may be removed.
  8b. Body sheet metal may be trimmed for tire clearance a maximum of 5" above tire on both sides of car
  8c. Rear trunk floor and outer portion of rear inner fender panels may be removed.
9. All glass and chrome trim must be removed.
10. The hood must be complete with no cutouts for the air cleaner.
11. Air cleaner must remain completely under hood.
12. Hood and deck lid must have quick pull positive hold pins.
13. Engine to driver's compartment must be completely sealed.
14. Driver to trunk area must be completely sealed.
15. Plastic nose pieces upper and lower OK
16. No rear spoilers allowed.
17. Complete stock floor pan mandatory. From front firewall to rear axle, frame rail to frame rail.
18. Stock firewall, stock location, master cylinder stock location.
19. No glass windshields allowed.
20. The complete windshield area must be covered with wire mesh with minimum ¼" openings OR Minimum three windshield bars in front of driver.
21. Number must be on both sides of car located on door.
22. Must also have number located on roof and on front of car located in approximate headlight area and taillight area.
23. Minimum number size is 18". Number lines must be a minimum of 4" and in contrasting color to the body of car.
24. No mirrors of any kind allowed.
25. Appearance of car must be kept up to track standards.
26. Must provide lifting points or eyelets front and rear to facilitate wrecker hook up
DRIVER COMPARTMENT:
1. Aluminum high-back seat only and must be bolted into the roll cage construction NOT the floor pan, using minimum 3/8-inch bolts.
2. Driver seat may be no further back than rear edge of B-pillar.
3. Dash must be flat, rear can be no higher than front, except for cowl in front of driver
4. Collapsible steering shaft only
5. Fire extinguisher minimum 2 lbs. dry-chemical must be mounted in driver's compartment. Must be accessible to the driver.
6. Steering ratio reducers allowed.
7. Quick release steering wheel OK

ENGINE COMPARTMENT:
1. Engine must be in OEM location.
2. GM and Ford metric frames must have back of fuel pump in front of cross member.
3. Frame and cross member may not be altered for engine placement.
4. Engine mount holes cannot be removed or altered on engine block.
5. No mid-plate allowed.
6. Relocation from stock, of left upper control arm mounting point ok on GM chassis. For increased positive camber

ELECTRICAL / IGNITION SYSTEM:
1. Any 12 Volt or 16 volt Battery (one only) must be moved from under hood to inside of vehicle or in trunk.
2. Battery must be enclosed in a metal box securely fastend to chassis
3. Kill switch must be labeled ON/OFF and easily reached by driver or fire safety crew
4. Gear reduction starters OK
5. Alternator not requierd
6. No two way radios allowed.
7. No After market racing application ignition systems allowed.
8. No traction controll systems allowed

ENGINES:
1. NO BIG BLOCKS! Maximum engine displacement:
GM - 350c.i. - Chrysler - 360c.i. - Ford - 351c.i.
2. Blocks must not be altered in any way so that it could not be used in a street legal production car, OEM block only.
3. Aftermarket steel engine mounts allowed
4. Maximum allowable overbore for cleanup - .060 (4.060)
5. After market oil pan with side kick out OK
6. Oil pre-lube system OK
7. Wet sump only

CAMSHAFT:
1. 4 Barrel carbureted cars subject to a vacuum test of 14hg of manifold vacuume for (1) minute at 900 RPM for the purpose of teching for low / mild performance cam. Must provide an easy access vacuum port on the intake manifold for the purpose of checking vacuum.
2. Optional .465 valve lift (max.) intake and exhaust camshaft, can only be used with the Edelbrock Torquer 2 intake manifold and one Holley 4412 carburetor
3. No roller lifter application camshafts.
4. Cranking compression, hot off the track, 185 anytime.
5. No gear drives allowed.
CRANKS:
1. Stock OEM steel or cast iron stock stroke; CHEVY 3.480, FORD 3.500, CHRYSLER 3.580 stroke crank OR Scat series 9000 stock replacement OK
1a. No knife edging, No lighting, No offset grinding, No stroking, No destroking, No any other after market cranks of any kind. No lightweight cranks allowed Crank is to remain stock and will be teched.
2. Must have One inch inspection hole in oil pan for visual verification of crankshaft.
PISTONS:
1. Stock OEM piston allowed OR cast or forged 2-valve OR 4-valve relief flat top piston allowed.
2. No lightening of any kind. No domed pistons allowed. Pistons are no touch.
3. Floating wrist pin OK
CONNECTING RODS:
1. Stock OEM connecting rod allowed.
1a. No H-beam rods allowed. No aluminum connecting rods, No lighting of any kind. No grinding or polishing beams. No after market hi-performance connecting rods allowed.
2. After market hi-performance connecting rod bolts OK.
3. Shot peened OK.
HEADS:
1.  2.02 intake (max.) 1.6 exhaust (max.) valves allowed.
1a. No Vortex heads, No fuel injection application heads, No aluminum heads allowed, No port matching No after market heads allowed, No pocket porting or blending, No acid etching. No angle milling.
2. Stock appearing stamped steel rockers only. any ratio
    2a. No alloy, roller tip or chrome-molly rockers allowed. No roller rockers.
    2b. OEM Stock shaft mount rockers only for Chrysler and Ford
3. Screw in studs OK, Guide plates OK. Large valve springs, any spring rate OK.





EXHAUST SYSTEM:




1. OEM cast iron exhaust manifolds. 2 1/4" exit max
2. Brezinski exhaust manifolds ok    2 1/4" exit max
3. Center dump "Ram Horns" type manifolds OK.
4. Exhaust must extend past firewall and turn towards ground.
5. Maximum 2-1/2" O.D. exhaust pipes.
6. Dual exhaust, crossover or 'Y' pipes OK.
7. Maximum dB reading 95 decibels at 100 feet.
8. Mufflers and tail pipes must be mounted below or underneath stock floor pan.
9. No part of the exhaust system is allowed inside the driver's compartment.
FUEL SYSTEM:
1. Mechanical OEM type push rod fuel pumps only.
2. One unaltered OEM Four barrel or untouched Holley 4412 Two barrel carburetor
3. May remove carburetor choke plate.
4. No carburetor spacers.
5. One .25 inch (maximum) thickness gasket only.
6. Top flow air cleaner housings OK
7. No cold air boxes or air cleaner duct work.
8. Fuel cell required, must be in minimum 22 gauge steel container.
9. Fuel Cell must be securely fastened in trunk with minimum two solid steel straps around entire cell.
10. Metal firewall must be between driver and fuel cell.
11. All cell mounts must be steel, securely welded to frame/cage.
12. Fuel cell vents, including cap vent, must have check valves.
13. Fuel lines through driver compartment must run through metal pipe or metal conduit.
14. No fuel filters in driver compartment. One fuel filter only. No cool cans.
15. Roll over check valve on fuel cell vents required
16. Any OEM stock untouched Intake manifold, Cast iron or OEM Aluminum, can be used.
16a. Untouched Edelbrock Torquer 2 intake manifold may be used only with  Untouched Holley 4412 and .465 max valve lift camshaft.
17. Fuel cell cap must have a small safety chain connected to the car.

COOLING SYSTEM:
1. Minimum two-core radiator
2. Aluminum radiator OK
3. Must be mounted in front of engine.
4. Must have an overflow container.
5. Serpentine belt pullys OK
6. Underdrive pullys OK
7. Aluminum water pump OK
8. Electric radiator fans OK

TIRES AND WHEELS:
1. Any D.O.T. street legal tire: Sizes 215/70R/15, 225/70R/15 or 235/70R/15 OR their equivalent in 75 series, only. 8" tread width max.
2. Maximum wheel rim width is 7". Steel wheels only
3. No mag or aluminum wheels allowed.
4. Aftermarket steel wheels with bead lock are allowed.
    4a. Wheel studs may be replaced with larger studs up to 5/8 inch diameter.
5. Any OEM wheels utilized on the right side of car must be reinforced.
6. Minimum tire pressure 28 psi. at all times on right side tires.
7. All tires will be checked thoroughly for over aggressive tread patterns.
8. 15" tire and wheel only.
10. Wheel spacers OK
11. 2, 3, 4 inch offset wheels OK
12. No racing application tires. No snow tires, No siping, No groving, tires

CONTINUED......

Lets hope OKINITE gets busy again...........You have to much time on your hands.....LOL.......................If I recall. last year we got a new vac. rule and quick steers, Baby steps................What should we do for this year?.................jUST THINKING.............Pete...

if the rearend rule was changed i would have no problem changin the other things to go play but the  rear end in the biggest thing for me

yes i have a ford 9in

PETE YOU JUST DON'T GIVE A @#$% ABOUT ANYTHING DO YOU EXCEPT FOR COORS...OLD SCHOOL

Offset wheels and wheel spacers, I like that not too exspensive of an option if a guy wants to buy them. And the wheel spacers can be home made (empty Coors cans from Pete).



Mopar73Car
Glen Sparks

but spacers would be cool, easy low budget adjustment

SO,,,,,,,,,YOUR GOING TO HIDE BEHIND THE SKIRT OF A CHEVELLE GUY...........LEAVE IT TO PETE TO STIR IT UP........LMAO

32MORGAN wrote on 01/20/09 at 1:35pm:


Hey!!!!!!!!  Leave the big car / battle wagon bashing out of it!

And I think Pete aint wearing skirts anymore..... (think he's wearing dresses now)
But not shure.


Mopar73Car
Glen Sparks

heyyou#27 wrote on 01/20/09 at 5:56pm:



"EVERY WEEK".......


So much for "partial season Morgan"  LOL

Mopar73Car
Glen Sparks

 

Like we have all said before, small CHEAP changes always lead to something else. Everything has an opposite reaction. Wheel spacers and offset wheels are simple but do cost money. Then what? Maybe wider lower a-arms...cars are handling better so now we need more power? it always is small then adds up....dont change a thing! quit trying to cost yourselves money! LEARN TO DRIVE FAST WITH WHAT YOU HAVE! Rickybobby, please just learn to drive. Mopar, show me you can load car on trailer without pushing it up manually. Morgan, come as much as you want...don't be bullied by heat race winners and wallbangers.
P.S. sorry ive been gone, the party on Jan 1 was an A+ I left a little early cause a couple of drinkers were saying a little too much and I thought it be better that I leave before I turned it into a redneck fighting affair....lol.