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Redalert144
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Rear Gear Ratio
04/27/11 at 12:06pm
I race on a 3/8th mile track, have a stock 350 with a .390 cam, 275/60-15 wheels and I don't know what rear gear ratio I have in my Gm 10 bolt rear end. The car runs up to about 5400 rpm and currently hit that 5400 limit 3/4 down the straight. I think the tranny is a 350 as well. Does anyone have a starting point for a rear gear ratio that I could use. Thanks
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hobby14y
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04/27/11 at 7:36pm
i run 4.11 in my ford 9 inch and i ran in my checy 10 bolt pulld around 6200 now in my nova 6400 to 6500
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04/27/11 at 7:41pm
So a 373 would be good start, only wanting to pull 5400 rpms?
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04/27/11 at 8:23pm
i think 373 yea your fine. im not much of a gear guy but it sounds like 373 will be fine
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04/27/11 at 10:20pm
when you race , do you race with the tranny in first or second gear? If you race with it in first you probably have a 2:73 gear in your 10 bolt. If you put it in second gear and race, that will most likely put your 10 bolt with a 4.56 gear or so. what you need to know is the FINAL ratio, you find this by taking tranny gear X rear gear.
2.73 x 2.52 (th350 first gear) = 6.87 Final gear.
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4.56 x 1.52 (TH350 second gear) =6.93 final gear
Those final gear rations will probably put you about 5400 rpm down the straights with a stock 350. Once you know what you have , you can dial in what you need
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04/28/11 at 7:06am
Thanks, yes I have been racing in low gear
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04/28/11 at 9:40am
What are you trying to achieve? do you want to change your gears for More or less rpm? Or do you just want to know what gears you have. If you race in first gear and slap in some 373 gears, you will be tachin' darn near 5400 rpm on the caution laps
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04/28/11 at 9:52am
I run in low gear right now and my engine won't turn more than 5400 and currently I'm getting that 5400 about 3/4 down the straight
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04/28/11 at 10:31am
with my 2 speed powerglide i run low about 6500 rpm.
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04/28/11 at 6:14pm
low gear in a powerglide is usually around a 1.76 and a 4.11 gear gives you a 7.23 final gear, So in hobby14's car that gets them about 6400 rpm
SO redalert, If you want to bring you RPM up to 6400 ish, you need to find a final gear of about that 7.23. There are all kinda of variables, but shooting for a low 7.00 should do the trick. Good luck with that
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04/28/11 at 6:18pm
The most rpm my car can turn is 5400
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04/28/11 at 6:51pm
then leave it alone. sounds like you are good w/ the gears you have
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04/28/11 at 6:54pm
Whys that? Is that what your cam recommends? You would be better off re gearing and running in 3rd gear it's one to one I believe and less rotating mass and in the factory stock class you need to keep your momentum up as much as possible
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04/28/11 at 7:08pm
I'm new at this and when I bought the car he said run it in low, that's what I do, the stops pulling 3/4 down the straight. Most likely going to switch to a 9" during the summer so suggestions for where to start would be appreciated
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04/28/11 at 7:14pm
You gotta know where you are at now, to know where you are going.
When you get the 10 bolt out pull the dif cover and figure out what gear you have now. once you have that you can figure out what gears to go with when you get the 9 inch
http://www.thedirtforum.com/gearcalc.htm
that site my help you figure that out
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04/28/11 at 7:45pm
Brad33 wrote
on 04/28/11 at 7:14pm:
You gotta know where you are at now, to know where you are going.
When you get the 10 bolt out pull the dif cover and figure out what gear you have now. once you have that you can figure out what gears to go with when you get the 9 inch
Thanks, we'll figure it out then
http://www.thedirtforum.com/gearcalc.htm
that site my help you figure that out
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04/28/11 at 10:42pm
Redalert144 wrote
on 04/27/11 at 12:06pm:
currently hit that 5400 limit 3/4 down the straight.
I did'nt read you engine rules, but based on the info you stated that motor should be turning 6200 to 6400 rpm. As suggested pull the cover and ID the ratio. If you find that the final ratio is in the ball park of the others running in your class, then you have a problem with the motor.
A bad tuneup ( wrong timing), fuel, or ignition could make the motor layover. Bad valve springs can cause a RPM limit and be hard to feel.
Good luck.
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04/29/11 at 7:49pm
Yea brad got me on that one.. Im not a gear guy all I no is tht I just bought new gears last week 4:11 I still havnt put them in yet. So yea 4:11 hobbys run at Bakersfield speedway
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04/29/11 at 7:55pm
Going to adust timing and go through the valvetrain tomorrow to see if we can get some more rpms out of her tomorrow. Thanks for your help guys
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05/02/11 at 5:34pm
what are you setting the timing at and how are you setting the timing?
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05/02/11 at 5:57pm
We pulled the valve covers and it turns out that we had 3 or 4 tight rockers, and one of the caps on the valve spring had broken. So hopefully getting that stuff fixed we can get some more rpms
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05/03/11 at 11:51am
You mean you broke a valve spring retainer? What happened to the keepers and did the valve drop down in the combustion chamber?
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