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Re: Ocean Returns To IMCA For 2012..
Reply #44 - 02/20/12 at 9:30pm
 
Chowchilla racers should  be very happy to get one of the best in this business to run the track. You guys sure know how to welcome someone..
I was told Merced is paying the same as Ocean, John I'm very happy your at Chow think you run great track in Watsonville and look forward what you can do with this track.
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Reply #45 - 02/20/12 at 11:11pm
 
14B you should look into what merced is paying this is not 2011..why don't you call merced and in month when Soares returns your call let us all know. We will be racing ocean can't get off work to make merced..
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Reply #46 - 02/20/12 at 11:31pm
 
Racefan11 wrote on 02/20/12 at 11:11pm:
14B you should look into what merced is paying this is not 2011..why don't you call merced and in month when Soares returns your call let us all know. We will be racing ocean can't get off work to make merced..


well i am going to do that that why i said that what was offered last year, i like what john trying to do with ocean and chow running the 2 track deal run friday get in saturday hell that just adds to my well needed seat time, if it sounds like im trying to put chow or ocean down im not at all.
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Reply #47 - 02/21/12 at 12:50am
 
i to am not putting john down but $125 and only  paying top 5 is kinda a slap in the face for a medium division and a nation wide devision at that. with 18 or so  races on the schedule that just seems like a lot of money in his pocket and none in the racers. its just nice to be rewarded for your acomplishments in racing not given back a couple dollars and thats it.

raise the purse to $300 to win and pay the full field and make it worth it for out of town cars to travel. seems almost every track in cali is going NSM IMCA fully for 2013 so the class should only  grow. pay and the cars should be there to support the pay out but thats just my opinion. make your money on beer and food not off the racers
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Reply #48 - 02/21/12 at 1:36am
 
JOHNSON MOTORSPORTS 99 wrote on 02/21/12 at 12:50am:
i to am not putting john down but $125 and only  paying top 5 is kinda a slap in the face for a medium division and a nation wide devision at that. with 18 or so  races on the schedule that just seems like a lot of money in his pocket and none in the racers. its just nice to be rewarded for your acomplishments in racing not given back a couple dollars and thats it.

raise the purse to $300 to win and pay the full field and make it worth it for out of town cars to travel. seems almost every track in cali is going NSM IMCA fully for 2013 so the class should only  grow. pay and the cars should be there to support the pay out but thats just my opinion. make your money on beer and food not off the racers


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Reply #49 - 02/21/12 at 9:05am
 
all i can say about the purse is if he only pays top 5 then i highly suggest 6th thru 20th should just get there entry/gate fee back... cause we are ALL putting on the show for the fans. and should be rewarded some how. everyone shows up expecting to win. no one wants to go home empty handed if they dont even make the top 5 that is a slap in the face after they raced there heart out. heck even enough to grab a burger for you and your crew after the races is better then nothing.

but dont get me wrong i completely understand only paying top 5 cause it forces us to bring out the best of who is there if you want any kind of pay you need to push it and race your butt off and make it clean and hard racing to make to the top 5. and thats what makes a show the fight for the win/top3/top5.... he wants to put on a show and we all wont that victory.

just a lil FYI.... also i can not freaking wait to get back out there and rip some laps!!!! Cheesy Shocked Cheesy
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Reply #50 - 02/21/12 at 9:48am
 
  This pay issue isn't some new revolutionary idea.  Northern Nevada tracks like Fallon, Fernley and Lovelock have paid  half the field plus one forever; i.e. 20 car field 10 plus one = 11 cars paid.
   All classes are paid this way.  I'm not crazy about it but it's the only way many tracks can keep the gates open.  Makes you work harder to get a few $ but you either accept it or find another hobby.
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Reply #51 - 02/21/12 at 10:05am
 
Seems like it could bring out rough driving issues, a guys 6th and needs to be 5th,just saying.
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Reply #52 - 02/21/12 at 10:10am
 
Or simply find another track to race at!!  LOL...Why follow Nevada's tracks pay policies? I'd rather have the tracks follow the pay that Idaho, Utah, Arizona, etc payout, through the field.
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Reply #53 - 02/21/12 at 10:18am
 
 Not as much as you might think.  Nevada tracks mostly don't put up with the rough stuff.  Example:  At Rattlesnake in '10 my son led the ProStock main from the 2nd lap til near the end when a lapped car deliberately took him out.  The guy that wrecked him got put to the back while they were lining up the restart when the officials decided it was intentional and tossed him out.  He wasn't back for the rest of the season.
We had the front end wiped out and couldn't restart so we didn't make a dime but neither did he.  Wish the tracks in NorCal would do the same thing about the bozos.
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Reply #54 - 02/21/12 at 10:19am
 
Its the first year for this class at Ocean lets see how many cars show up. Any predictions for opening night?
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Reply #55 - 02/21/12 at 12:37pm
 
bluebyu wrote on 02/21/12 at 10:19am:
Its the first year for this class at Ocean lets see how many cars show up. Any predictions for opening night?



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Reply #56 - 02/21/12 at 6:09pm
 
i think by the end of season we might see a semi main  ,thats what all tracks shoot for
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Reply #57 - 02/21/12 at 7:01pm
 
if u pay car can afford to come back. like if it 40 to get in and last place get 20, its alot ez'er to come up with 20 than 40 these's day.
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Reply #58 - 02/21/12 at 7:33pm
 
125 and only the top five is pretty weak.  Scott Woodhouse paid the stock cars with ten cars 180 to 200 to win and I think last got 25.  This class will pay for itself it doesnt need to add to another divisions purse.  It should be at least 100% back gate payout.
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Reply #59 - 02/21/12 at 8:05pm
 
You wanted imca this is what you get . I really don't think you will get more than 5or10 cars at chow for that pay. The bottom line is this no pay no cars.jmo
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Reply #60 - 02/21/12 at 8:41pm
 
sptmod99 wrote on 02/21/12 at 8:05pm:
You wanted imca this is what you get . I really don't think you will get more than 5or10 cars at chow for that pay. The bottom line is this no pay no cars.jmo



I dont think that IMCA is making this call. JMO if you want this class to grow you should put your best foot forward from the beginning. The guys at the back of the field need to be compensated too. Every class has the guys that are field fillers, when the field fillers are in hole 100% eventualy this will hurt the car count. This is JMO and i am not bad mouthing John or Ocean. I will support both tracks as much as possible with my A mod but my support would be alot less if I were racing for no money to offset my losses.      
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Re: Ocean Returns To IMCA For 2012..
Reply #61 - 02/21/12 at 10:18pm
 
IMCA is not telling the track to pay only the first 5!!  Geez, come on...That is just ridiculous...I'm the LAST guy you will see drink the IMCA koolaid, but lets keep it real sportmod99
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Reply #62 - 02/21/12 at 10:44pm
 
JOHN is reading all what is said i know it, but what he told me in a email you all wont get a response on this board from him due to all the bashing kenny got so if your looking for answer this is not the place to get it,

I race from my pocket with no helps from sponsors, only help from teammates here and there when needed. but other then that i pay for it all, if im looking at a track i only looking at starting pay, not winning cause i know my motor aint close to even what a crate motor has. i finished last place in almost every race i have ran, when i say last i mean out of every car that was still racing, so starting pay means alot to me cause i can figure my budget and know i will only be out such and such instead of out it all, if i had to race all season on just spend spend spend and never gain anything back, i can promise you i wont be racing many races might go to 1 but probably couldn't afford to go back for a month or so. on that note that would keep car count low, cause i know many racers are in the same boat with me, racing when they can and on a tight budget.

JOHN need to pay full sport mod field first year and show the racer what kind of outfit he will run at chow and maybe next year if he only want to pay top 5 then fine, but for next season u will have the return of the racers that like the program more then like the payout, just a idea to throw out there

in my opinion what hes got going for him is race Fridays and get in Saturdays, great deal but if pay aint there u cant drive from A then to B
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Reply #63 - 02/22/12 at 8:16am
 
Well here we are again Sport Mods B#&chin about pay out.
I am thinking at 125. win 100 for 2nd 75 for 3rd 50 for 4th 25 for 5th thats $385.00  At $35.00 a car he needs 11 SportMods to brake even.
So come Jun,July if the sportmod car count gets up to 20-25 or more and the stands are getting full then LETS START RAISING H#$L.

All the BASHING doesn't help the SPORTMODS at all.
There other classes that pay more money.
LM, A mods, WCSS.  Huh  Even I can only race once a month with this kinda pay out.
                             NOW WITH ALL DO RESPECT
                                THIS SHOULD BE JP SAYING THIS NOT ME
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Reply #64 - 02/22/12 at 5:31pm
 
If a purse is modest, a guy might not spend all the money he can to go fast, instead he might choose to go as fast as he can without spending much money.

Lets not forget fellas, as soon as the purse get high enough, you will probably be chasing the Red #2 and Pounds and Stone and Stanford.  You will find yourself struggling to get your share of that monster purse.  When that happens, your portion will not be any more than it is now, because your finish position will be lowered by 5 spots at least, but you will be spending more, trying to keep up, so your NET will be less .... and the cycle starts again .....  So, be careful what you wish for.


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Reply #65 - 02/22/12 at 6:32pm
 
Bap33 wrote on 02/22/12 at 5:31pm:
If a purse is modest, a guy might not spend all the money he can to go fast, instead he might choose to go as fast as he can without spending much money.

Lets not forget fellas, as soon as the purse get high enough, you will probably be chasing the Red #2 and Pounds and Stone and Stanford.  You will find yourself struggling to get your share of that monster purse.  When that happens, your portion will not be any more than it is now, because your finish position will be lowered by 5 spots at least, but you will be spending more, trying to keep up, so your NET will be less .... and the cycle starts again .....  So, be careful what you wish for.


I myself and any true racer would accept and like a challenge from the best. It only makes u step up ur game and get better

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