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04/25/10 at 11:04pm
 
how to set up a 3 link setup
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Reply #1 - 04/25/10 at 11:25pm
 
is that why your car is striped to the Frame????
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Reply #2 - 04/25/10 at 11:37pm
 
Who in heck would want to do that?

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Reply #3 - 04/26/10 at 10:32am
 
In the new rules this year can you 3 link a camero clip car?
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Reply #4 - 04/26/10 at 1:39pm
 
not yet
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Reply #5 - 04/26/10 at 3:29pm
 
MikeShepherd wrote on 04/26/10 at 10:32am:
In the new rules this year can you 3 link a camero clip car?


FOR SMS -- YES YOU CAN ............. The new rules for 2010 say, OEM part of frame must measure a Minimum of “20 forward from Screw Jack and a minimum of 20” to rear of screw jack. May modify for Fuel pump, steering shaft, Radiator and shock clearance. May alter for after market upper A-arms.  

You can put either style rear suspension you like (leaf or coil).......... or change it from one to the other if ya' like........as long as it fits the rules for which ever style you are installing
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Reply #6 - 04/26/10 at 6:09pm
 
OLD SCHOOL#6 wrote on 04/26/10 at 3:29pm:
MikeShepherd wrote on 04/26/10 at 10:32am:
In the new rules this year can you 3 link a camero clip car?


FOR SMS -- YES YOU CAN ............. The new rules for 2010 say, OEM part of frame must measure a Minimum of “20 forward from Screw Jack and a minimum of 20” to rear of screw jack. May modify for Fuel pump, steering shaft, Radiator and shock clearance. May alter for after market upper A-arms.  

You can put either style rear suspension you like (leaf or coil).......... or change it from one to the other if ya' like........as long as it fits the rules for which ever style you are installing


Another change to the rules that "never got changed and left them just like they were"

used to be no mix and match, and coil cars had to have OEM frame to the centerline of the rear axle

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Reply #7 - 04/27/10 at 6:24am
 
It does not say anything about stock rear frame any more.
Does any body have a copy of the old rules
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Reply #8 - 04/27/10 at 6:25am
 
The only thing it says is you have to run stock lower arms.
This is what i get from the rules.
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Reply #9 - 04/27/10 at 6:27am
 
They got screwjacks on some of the leaf cars on the rear of the spring and there is not 20 inches of frame behind them.
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Reply #10 - 04/27/10 at 3:53pm
 
I understood the 20" screwjack deal, to apply to the front clip.

Here is Chow's, they are very close to EvW, but added the Brinn deal, and got rid of the cube limit (with added weight)

http://www.racechowchilla.com/Superstocks.html
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Reply #11 - 04/27/10 at 4:43pm
 
hogracer3d wrote on 04/26/10 at 6:09pm:
coil cars had to have OEM frame to the centerline of the rear axle

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not sure where you got that from unless it was told to you only by sandie. there is nothing in the old rules that state a coil car must have OEM frame to the center of the rear axle.???
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Reply #12 - 04/27/10 at 4:47pm
 
ss97 wrote on 04/27/10 at 6:25am:
The only thing it says is you have to run stock lower arms.
This is what i get from the rules.


just whack off the back of the car and build a rear clip like this using stock lowers. they make some nice monoballs for the lowers also.


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Reply #13 - 04/27/10 at 5:41pm
 
CHASSIS AND SUSPENSION:
1. Frame must be full OEM frame rails.
2. Tube type upper adjustable A-arms allowed.
3. Control arm that supports coil spring must be stock.
4. Rear clip may be made of 2" x 3" steel tubing. Tubing must extend to the rear bumper. Rear spring
mounts must be a minimum of 40" apart measured inside to inside.
5. Uni - body cars may tie in frame rails front to rear.
6. Weight jacks are allowed. No weight jacking controls allowed inside of drivers compartment.
7. Racing spring and racing shocks may be used (no coil over or coil over eliminator). Heim end type
shocks OK.
8. No external reservoir shocks, no external adjustable shocks (dials, screws etc.). No aluminum body
shocks allowed.
9. Rebuildable and revalveable shocks allowed.
10. Maximum four shocks allowed on car. 1 shock per wheel only. No shocks over rear end.
11. Leaf spring sliders are allowed.
12. All cars must have original type suspension. Leaf springs on Camaros, Firebirds, Novas; coil
springs on Monte Carlos, Malibus, Oldsmobiles, etc.

13. No mono-leaf springs. No composite.
14. Drivers may remove floorpan, driver must be completely sealed in cockpit, driveline straps strictly
enforced.
15. Adjustable lowering blocks O.K.
16. (NEW) Coil cars can run 3-Links. Solid links only. 20/20 rule. Top bar no longer than 20 inches.
Bottom bar must be a minimum of 20 inches, behind rear end. Car must have had rear coils from the
factory. No 3-link Camaros etc.

17. Coil cars may use adjustable upper links. Lowers must remain stock but may use multi-hole
locations. Offset bolts OK.

Probably here thinking that FULL means OEM all the way to the rear, but may have 2x3 rear section (for damage repair )

Perhaps for Enid,OK or Pevely,MO

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Reply #14 - 04/27/10 at 5:57pm
 
Hey Dave then I can have my 3-link torsion bar Dodge????   Shocked
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Reply #15 - 04/27/10 at 6:19pm
 
whats the deal with the 20/20 rule. what wrong with having 3 links in super stocks. it makes them faster which everyone wants and they are very inexpensive and easy to adjust and built. just my opion.
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Reply #16 - 04/27/10 at 6:55pm
 
What's up Mitch,hasn't been the same at chow without you guys this year.

I think this an issue that Chris Kerns needs to clarify,this could change the whole direction of the SS
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Reply #17 - 04/27/10 at 6:58pm
 
Dirt_Track_Junkie wrote on 04/27/10 at 5:57pm:
Hey Dave then I can have my 3-link torsion bar Dodge????   Shocked


Yep, sounds like you can.
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Reply #18 - 04/27/10 at 7:00pm
 
propit21 wrote on 04/27/10 at 6:19pm:
whats the deal with the 20/20 rule. what wrong with having 3 links in super stocks. it makes them faster which everyone wants and they are very inexpensive and easy to adjust and built. just my opion.


The 20/20 rule makes the design more complex, depending on what you want

3-links are OK, just no j-bar, and no pull-bar
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Reply #19 - 04/27/10 at 7:44pm
 
I thought your third bar is your pull bar
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Reply #20 - 04/27/10 at 8:04pm
 
ss97 wrote on 04/27/10 at 7:44pm:
I thought your third bar is your pull bar


Yes, but on these it must be a solid bar, which is simply a swedge tube with heim ends and no bushings, springs, gas or air (non-movable)

A pull bar has those bushings and such, and telescopes in and out under acceleration and braking.

like this:

http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=3424419...
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Reply #21 - 04/27/10 at 10:02pm
 
the rules at imperial is a 3 link, stock 4 link or leafs. we run a 3 link with a pull bar and a j bar. the j bar does not count as a link. why won't most rules allow a pull bar? seem like better traction and would make for better racing. just wondering. thanks
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