MikeShepherd wrote on 04/27/10 at 6:55pm:



Hey Mike.

I wish, actually all of us wish we could be there. Hopefully we will make it out in the next month or so.

a full oem frame rail goes all the way to the rear bumper, doesn't it?

I think the one which said c/l of rear axle was the EvW ones prior to the last change in 08 for the 09 to 11 rules

"11.All frames MUST remain O.E.M. stock in shape and thickness and run front bumper to center of rear end."

I think there was, even my nova had the stock rear rails and sub frame connectors.

remember you had seen american stocks with better and more advanced suspensions than the 3d too though.

Doesn't matter now though, you only have to have the front crossmember anyway

I just pulled this from the Santa Maria website.

Notice that rule 15 is specific to COIL CARS

Also, what stock lower arm came on a Camaro that you plan to use?

Just the way I interpret what is written here



CHASSIS AND SUSPENSION:
1.  OEM American rear-wheel drive frame only. No sports car frames. OEM part of frame must measure a Minimum of “20 forward from Screw Jack and a minimum of 20” to rear of screw jack. May modify for Fuel pump, steering shaft, Radiator and shock clearance. May alter for after market upper A-arms
2. Tube type upper adjustable A-arms allowed
3. Control arm that supports coil spring must be stock
4. Rear clip may be made of 2" x 3" steel tubing. Tubing must extend to the rear bumper. Rear spring mounts must be a minimum of 40" apart measured inside to inside
5. Uni � body cars may tie in frame rails front to rear
6. Weight jacks are allowed. No weight jacking controls allowed inside of drivers compartment
7. Racing spring and racing shocks may be used (no coil over or coil over eliminator). Heim end type shocks OK
8. No external reservoir shocks, no external adjustable shocks (dials, screws etc.). No aluminum body shocks allowed
9. Rebuildable and revalveable shocks allowed
10. Maximum four shocks allowed on car. 1 shock per wheel only. No shocks over rear end
11. Leaf spring sliders are allowed
12. No composite leaf springs
13. May remove floor pan, driver must be completely sealed in cockpit, driveline straps strictly enforced
14. Adjustable lowering blocks O.K.
15. Coil cars can run 3-Links. Solid links only. 20/20 rule. Top bar no longer than 20 inches. Bottom bar must be a minimum of 20 inches, behind rear end.  
16. Coil cars may use adjustable upper links. Lowers must remain stock but may use multi-hole locations. Offset bolts OK

Smith3d wrote on 04/28/10 at 10:14pm:


so do you believe that the rear clip starts at the center line of the rear end? must have been a leaf guy that told you that

Doesn't matter what I believe, the car is built already and that is what we had to work with. I am pleased with how it came out regardless.


BTW, I don't care if the camaros put on a 3 link either I was just stating how I read the rule.

ministocker56 wrote on 04/29/10 at 10:06pm:

Mr. Negative (i.e. - Greg),  This rule opens the door for better car counts.  If you (or anybody else) find a chassis that you can get a real good bargain on but it does not have the rear suspension you like, you can NOW, go ahead and take advantage of that bargain, buy the car, and put which ever rear stuff you like in it (within the rules).  It does NOT, change the weight rule, it does NOT change the wheel base rule, but it DOES maintain the important part of the front clip rule.  Also if you already have a car, and after running it, you decide you would like to try the other type of suspension, no problem, go ahead and do it (within the rules).  This is a win-win rule change for the SS class............

prochampion said it , now this new rule & here it is everone has built new car's or is in the middle of building them , soo you think a guy realy want's to cut his car apart or ? to make it a 3 link , this rule here cost money to do or fix , the car count is hurting & everyone know's it & now you change the rule's ,

I just want to race against more cars!!!!!!!!!

Three link, leaf, or four link. The one thing that they all have in common is.........................


HOMEWORK MUST BE DONE ON TIME TO PASS THIS CLASS


We struggled horribly to beat the leaf cars last year cause we got out late. The 3 link is good when it's good and BAD when it's bad

prochampion wrote on 04/30/10 at 6:19pm:

prochamp -- You need to have the old rules and the new rules to see just what was done.  NOTHING was given OR taken away from either style of suspension.  The only thing that was done is this rule ....12. All cars must have original type suspension. Leaf springs on Camaros, Firebirds, Novas; coil springs on Monte Carlos, Malibus, Oldsmobiles, etc  No 3-link Camaros etc, was removed.  This old rule is a "Hobby Stock" rule and the SS have evolved beyond a rule like this.  All it does is give guys more "options".  Again --- this rule change does NOT, force anyone to make any changes to his car, it just gives a guy more options when building or buying a chassis..........(or if he wants to make a change).  This is a good thing for the class and I hope I have explained it to ya' well enough.

ministocker56 --- The rule will not cost anyone "more" money.  Come by and see me at the races tonight and I will explain it all to ya'..........................

because they have virtually nothing in common with a late model, except a fabricated body, which is shorter, narrower.