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06/05/08 at 6:13pm
 
BUSH IS FAULTED BY SENATE PANEL ON CASE FOR WAR

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WASHINGTON — A long-delayed Senate committee report endorsed by Democrats and some Republicans concluded that President Bush and his aides built the public case for war against Iraq by exaggerating available intelligence and by ignoring disagreements among spy agencies about Iraq’s weapons programs and Saddam Hussein’s links to al-Qaida.

Side note: I got this off the AP wire today, Looks like Cap'n is closer to Bush than I origanially thought... lol

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ONCE again Billy...........



President Bush lied about Weapons of Mass Destruction
Why Did These Liberals Lie About Weapons of Mass Destruction?
By John Lillpop  Friday, May 23, 2008  


As the war in Iraq becomes more unpopular with an increasing number of Americans, Democrats in collusion with the liberal mainstream media, continue to politicize the war by blatantly distorting the facts.  

For example, a popular refrain is that President Bush lied about Weapons of Mass Destruction (WMD) in order to implement a grand strategy fashioned by neo-conservatives well before Bush actually took office. Said strategy was supposedly aimed at using military force to install democratic regimes friendly to the U.S. throughout the Middle East.  
 
However, the left has never adequately answered the following question. If Bush knew there was no WMD, why would he send 150,000 troops into Iraq since his “lie” would be immediately exposed by invading coalition forces and reported by a large contingent of media embedded within those forces?  
 
Liberals also choose to ignore United Nations Resolution 144I, which clearly established that Iraq had WMD. That resolution was approved unanimously by the UN member nations.  

Besides the illogic in claiming that President Bush lied about WMD, the liberal argument is discredited by comments by Democrats themselves in the years and months leading up to the 2003 invasion.  
 
Herewith a substantial collection of quotes from responsible professionals about Saddam Hussein and WMD in Iraq:  
“[W]e urge you, after consulting with Congress, and consistent with the U.S. Constitution and laws, to take necessary actions (including, if appropriate, air and missile strikes on suspect Iraqi sites) to respond effectively to the threat posed by Iraq’s refusal to end its weapons of mass destruction programs."—From a letter signed by Joe Lieberman, Dianne Feinstein, Barbara A. Milulski, Tom Daschle, & John Kerry among others on October 9, 1998  
 
“This December will mark three years since United Nations inspectors last visited Iraq. There is no doubt that since that time, Saddam Hussein has reinvigorated his weapons programs. Reports indicate that biological, chemical and nuclear programs continue apace and may be back to pre-Gulf War status. In addition, Saddam continues to refine delivery systems and is doubtless using the cover of an illicit missile program to develop longer- range missiles that will threaten the United States and our allies."—From a December 6, 2001 letter signed by Bob Graham, Joe Lieberman, Harold Ford, & Tom Lantos, among others  
 
“Whereas Iraq has consistently breached its cease-fire agreement between Iraq and the United States, entered into on March 3, 1991, by failing to dismantle its weapons of mass destruction program, and refusing to permit monitoring and verification by United Nations inspections; Whereas Iraq has developed weapons of mass destruction, including chemical and biological capabilities, and has made positive progress toward developing nuclear weapons capabilities"—From a joint resolution submitted by Tom Harkin and Arlen Specter on July 18, 2002  
 
“Saddam’s goal … is to achieve the lifting of U.N. sanctions while retaining and enhancing Iraq’s weapons of mass destruction programs. We cannot, we must not and we will not let him succeed."—Madeline Albright, 1998  
 
“(Saddam) will rebuild his arsenal of weapons of mass destruction and some day, some way, I am certain he will use that arsenal again, as he has 10 times since 1983"—National Security Adviser Sandy Berger, Feb 18, 1998  
 
“Iraq made commitments after the Gulf War to completely dismantle all weapons of mass destruction, and unfortunately, Iraq has not lived up to its agreement."—Barbara Boxer, November 8, 2002  
 
“The last UN weapons inspectors left Iraq in October of 1998. We are confident that Saddam Hussein retained some stockpiles of chemical and biological weapons, and that he has since embarked on a crash course to build up his chemical and biological warfare capability. Intelligence reports also indicate that he is seeking nuclear weapons, but has not yet achieved nuclear capability."—Robert Byrd, October 2002  
 
“There’s no question that Saddam Hussein is a threat… Yes, he has chemical and biological weapons. He’s had those for a long time. But the United States right now is on a very much different defensive posture than we were before September 11th of 2001… He is, as far as we know, actively pursuing nuclear capabilities, though he doesn’t have nuclear warheads yet. If he were to acquire nuclear weapons, I think our friends in the region would face greatly increased risks as would we."—Wesley Clark on September 26, 2002  
 
“What is at stake is how to answer the potential threat Iraq represents with the risk of proliferation of WMD. Baghdad’s regime did use such weapons in the past. Today, a number of evidences may lead to think that, over the past four years, in the absence of international inspectors, this country has continued armament programs."—Jacques Chirac, October 16, 2002  
 
“The community of nations may see more and more of the very kind of threat Iraq poses now: a rogue state with weapons of mass destruction, ready to use them or provide them to terrorists. If we fail to respond today, Saddam and all those who would follow in his footsteps will be emboldened tomorrow."—Bill Clinton in 1998  
 
“In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including Al Qaeda members, though there is apparently no evidence of his involvement in the terrible events of September 11, 2001. It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons. Should he succeed in that endeavor, he could alter the political and security landscape of the Middle East, which as we know all too well affects American security."—Hillary Clinton, October 10, 2002  
 
“I am absolutely convinced that there are weapons...I saw evidence back in 1998 when we would see the inspectors being barred from gaining entry into a warehouse for three hours with trucks rolling up and then moving those trucks out."—Clinton’s Secretary of Defense William Cohen in April of 2003  
 
“Iraq is not the only nation in the world to possess weapons of mass destruction, but it is the only nation with a leader who has used them against his own people."—Tom Daschle in 1998  

“Saddam Hussein’s regime represents a grave threat to America and our allies, including our vital ally, Israel. For more than two decades, Saddam Hussein has sought weapons of mass destruction through every available means. We know that he has chemical and biological weapons. He has already used them against his neighbors and his own people, and is trying to build more. We know that he is doing everything he can to build nuclear weapons, and we know that each day he gets closer to achieving that goal."—John Edwards, Oct 10, 2002  
 
“The debate over Iraq is not about politics. It is about national security. It should be clear that our national security requires Congress to send a clear message to Iraq and the world: America is united in its determination to eliminate forever the threat of Iraq’s weapons of mass destruction."—John Edwards, Oct 10, 2002  
 
“I share the administration’s goals in dealing with Iraq and its weapons of mass destruction."—Dick Gephardt in September of 2002  
 
“Iraq does pose a serious threat to the stability of the Persian Gulf and we should organize an international coalition to eliminate his access to weapons of mass destruction. Iraq’s search for weapons of mass destruction has proven impossible to completely deter and we should assume that it will continue for as long as Saddam is in power."—Al Gore, 2002  
 
“We are in possession of what I think to be compelling evidence that Saddam Hussein has, and has had for a number of years, a developing capacity for the production and storage of weapons of mass destruction."—Bob Graham, December 2002  
 
“Saddam Hussein is not the only deranged dictator who is willing to deprive his people in order to acquire weapons of mass destruction."—Jim Jeffords, October 8, 2002  
 
“We have known for many years that Saddam Hussein is seeking and developing weapons of mass destruction."—Ted Kennedy, September 27, 2002  
 
“There is no doubt that Saddam Hussein’s regime is a serious danger, that he is a tyrant, and that his pursuit of lethal weapons of mass destruction cannot be tolerated. He must be disarmed."—Ted Kennedy, Sept 27, 2002  
 
“I will be voting to give the president of the United States the authority to use force - if necessary - to disarm Saddam Hussein because I believe that a deadly arsenal of weapons of mass destruction in his hands is a real and grave threat to our security."—John F. Kerry, Oct 2002  
 
“The threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real, but as I said, it is not new. It has been with us since the end of that war, and particularly in the last 4 years we know after Operation Desert Fox failed to force him to reaccept them, that he has continued to build those weapons. He has had a free hand for 4 years to reconstitute these weapons, allowing the world, during the interval, to lose the focus we had on weapons of mass destruction and the issue of proliferation."—John Kerry, October 9, 2002  
 
“(W)e need to disarm Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal, murderous dictator, leading an oppressive regime. We all know the litany of his offenses. He presents a particularly grievous threat because he is so consistently prone to miscalculation. ...And now he is miscalculating America’s response to his continued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass destruction. That is why the world, through the United Nations Security Council, has spoken with one voice, demanding that Iraq disclose its weapons programs and disarm. So the threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real, but it is not new. It has been with us since the end of the Persian Gulf War."—John Kerry, Jan 23, 2003  
 
“We begin with the common belief that Saddam Hussein is a tyrant and a threat to the peace and stability of the region. He has ignored the mandates of the United Nations and is building weapons of mass destruction and the means of delivering them."—Carl Levin, Sept 19, 2002  

“Every day Saddam remains in power with chemical weapons, biological weapons, and the development of nuclear weapons is a day of danger for the United States."—Joe Lieberman, August, 2002  
 
“Over the years, Iraq has worked to develop nuclear, chemical and biological weapons. During 1991 - 1994, despite Iraq’s denials, United Nations inspectors discovered and dismantled a large network of nuclear facilities that Iraq was using to develop nuclear weapons. Various reports indicate that Iraq is still actively pursuing nuclear weapons capability. There is no reason to think otherwise. Beyond nuclear weapons, Iraq has actively pursued biological and chemical weapons. Inspectors have said that Iraq’s claims about biological weapons is neither credible nor verifiable. In 1986, Iraq used chemical weapons against Iran, and later, against its own Kurdish population. While weapons inspections have been successful in the past, there have been no inspections since the end of 1998. There can be no doubt that Iraq has continued to pursue its goal of obtaining weapons of mass destruction."—Patty Murray, October 9, 2002  
 
“As a member of the House Intelligence Committee, I am keenly aware that the proliferation of chemical and biological weapons is an issue of grave importance to all nations. Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of mass destruction technology which is a threat to countries in the region and he has made a mockery of the weapons inspection process."—Nancy Pelosi, December 16, 1998  
 
“Even today, Iraq is not nearly disarmed. Based on highly credible intelligence, UNSCOM [the U.N. weapons inspectors] suspects that Iraq still has biological agents like anthrax, botulinum toxin, and clostridium perfringens in sufficient quantity to fill several dozen bombs and ballistic missile warheads, as well as the means to continue manufacturing these deadly agents. Iraq probably retains several tons of the highly toxic VX substance, as well as sarin nerve gas and mustard gas. This agent is stored in artillery shells, bombs, and ballistic missile warheads. And Iraq retains significant dual-use industrial infrastructure that can be used to rapidly reconstitute large-scale chemical weapons production."—Ex-Un Weapons Inspector Scott Ritter in 1998  
 
“There is unmistakable evidence that Saddam Hussein is working aggressively to develop nuclear weapons and will likely have nuclear weapons within the next five years. And that may happen sooner if he can obtain access to enriched uranium from foreign sources—something that is not that difficult in the current world. We also should remember we have always underestimated the progress Saddam has made in development of weapons of mass destruction."—John Rockefeller, Oct 10, 2002  
 
“Saddam’s existing biological and chemical weapons capabilities pose a very real threat to America, now. Saddam has used chemical weapons before, both against Iraq’s enemies and against his own people. He is working to develop delivery systems like missiles and unmanned aerial vehicles that could bring these deadly weapons against U.S. forces and U.S. facilities in the Middle East."—John Rockefeller, Oct 10, 2002  
 
“Whether one agrees or disagrees with the Administration’s policy towards Iraq, I don’t think there can be any question about Saddam’s conduct. He has systematically violated, over the course of the past 11 years, every significant UN resolution that has demanded that he disarm and destroy his chemical and biological weapons, and any nuclear capacity. This he has refused to do. He lies and cheats; he snubs the mandate and authority of international weapons inspectors; and he games the system to keep buying time against enforcement of the just and legitimate demands of the United Nations, the Security Council, the United States and our allies. Those are simply the facts."—Henry Waxman, Oct 10, 2002.  

As the record clearly shows, if G.W. Bush lied about WMD, he was joined by most, if not all, prominent Democrats at the time.  
 
 


   
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Reply #2 - 06/05/08 at 7:09pm
 
Ok everyone is at fault and that can't be change!but he can get off his ass and do something about it now! Now lets get it cleaned up and get our own country back on track.
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Reply #4 - 06/05/08 at 9:25pm
 
I swear, Billy, if brains were dynamite, you couldn't blow your nose!!!!!     Duane


At least Google the lefty's name before you bother with that bilige.
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Reply #5 - 06/06/08 at 6:12am
 
mudslinger47 wrote on 06/05/08 at 9:25pm:
I swear, Billy, if brains were dynamite, you couldn't blow your nose!!!!!     Duane


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Gosh thats funny...Your killing me ..ROFLMAO
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Reply #6 - 06/06/08 at 9:15am
 
I forgot we're only allowed to use internet spam as our source.  lol OMG Duanne, you are the LAST person who should be bagging on sources.. lol  Why is the major aspect of this thread being overlooked.  The picture is a dead ringer for Cap'n Kirk? lol  That is an untouched photo.

Hey Duanne, the job growth rate you were braggin about a while back when you said the economy wasn't all that bad.. Hot off CNN.

Jobless spike deepens economic pain
A spike in the unemployment rate -- the biggest in more than two decades - raised new concerns today that a weak labor outlook, high oil prices and continuing woes in the housing and credit markets are leading the U.S. economy into a recession. CNNMoney.com reports the jobless rate hit 5.5 percent in May -- much higher than economists had forecast.  FTR: Trickle down economics, which the US is engaging in now, doesn't work....

What a mess...
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Reply #7 - 06/06/08 at 10:20am
 
that's not the capt'n , unless he knows the words to "Elvira" .
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Reply #8 - 06/06/08 at 10:24am
 
i will only say to watch what "TAX RAISING ECONOMIC" does to this country IF you win........because then YOUR party will have complete control to have it their way.....if it happens the "divide" you talk about will grow too large to measure.....jmo






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Reply #9 - 06/06/08 at 12:24pm
 
Trickle down economics loads up the top to the point where they are so loaded they trickle down a few jobs.  Basically, it's a tactic to increase the gap between the rich and the poor.  It's been the way the country has been ran the last 8 years.  

Not to mention the war in Iraq which continues to make people weary.  I read a report a while back that said if we pulled out you would see an immediate swing upward in the economy.  With the money being spent in Iraq we could have subsidized oil a little to help the American people.  Mike, what's your take on Iraq?  A key issue in the upcomming election?
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Reply #10 - 06/06/08 at 1:35pm
 
you dont want my take on it, it will just start ANOTHER war.....between you and I  LOL j/k.

the real issue in our government is ACCOUNTABILITY IN SPENDING MORE THAN WE TAKE IN.......at least for me......

hence why i run my operation the way i do and have set myself, my new wife, my kids and some of my employees up for THEIR future when i saw the opportunity and had the ability to do so, instead of living a life of "LUXURY and SELF INDULGENCE"

I guess you might say my time in "PUBLIC HOUSING" as a child has had a PROFOUND affect on how i spend money on myself.....





peace.............................................mike


p.s. i dont think osama or mccain is the answer and am embarassed for this country that they are what we say to the world are our "BEST CANIDATES" to run our country.......
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Reply #11 - 06/06/08 at 1:38pm
 
FASTMIKE wrote on 06/06/08 at 1:35pm:
p.s. i dont think osama or mccain is the answer and am embarassed for this country that they are what we say to the world are our "BEST CANIDATES" to run our country.......
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